Vegas gap is still 2:1 for 360.  Not sure why exactly.  The PS3 versions of Batman:AC, AC:Brotherhood, SW:FU2 and even the shooter MOH are all close.  With the Am. HW diff. PS3 is doing better %s.  Walk-ins lean to 360 because of that difference though and if PS3 catches up later it's at lower prices.  Frontloading is good.  Pretty psyched.  Gonna name my boy Wayne Newtron and take over the place.  If I don't die of thirst.  They should have bought 'Danke Schoen' for promo music.  F-ing eerie.  58 days I seece tick, tick.      

The online nos. for Reach will be something to see.  Records for damn near everything. 

Way too early to be calling 'bust' on Move.  Someone in the PO comments was saying it looks like a flop.  Move could have dozens of great games over the next few years and sell really well but then they'll have direct competition from Wii HD.  Likewise early pre-orders for Kinect look promising and it appeals to an audience that 360 hasn't done very well with.  Women, families and casuals if I understand the target market.  Ninty could easily introduce something similar but somehow I doubt it.  I expect some larger innovation.  An interface like a fencing helmet that makes your magic wand look like a rapier, or a lightsaber and helps a projected 3D enemy look solid.  Or not.  Time will tell.

Is AC brotherhood to soon after AC II? I dont recall how ACII's preorders were going but I have a feeling they were much higher then brotherhood

Why does it seem like people completely disregard Asia and Japan in these arguments? Kinect will be lucky to cross 500k in Japan. Move will likely sell 2-3 million lifetime there, probably more if there's a killer app connected to it like Ninokuni and there's a large number of multi-controller owners. And if it get's a large enough base of RTS games it could corner the console market in Korea and Hong Kong. And I've mentioned this several times already but are people even aware that it's basically being bundled for free in mainland Europe where Move hype is much higher than Kinect hype.

haha u are so wrong Move will be killed by Kinect and Wii everywhere except maybe Japan. but even in Japan... Japanese dont play socom and Killzone mate.

Based on what? In EU move is among top preorders( at every retailer) while kinect is nowhere to be found. Does that mean kinect ll fail in EU?

Stop lying kid... u dont even have proff for what ur saying we only know that Kinect is owning in Americas and UK. no Ones knows anything about EMEAA.

I don't think you understand the force of the GT racing series. Its the Halo of PS games. Its the Call of Duty of drivers. 

I'm honestly not concerned with sales, despite the low pre-order numbers for a vast number of reasons.

Too many people are in doubt of a solid release date. Even though we are drawing very near to the Nov. 2 release date and they still haven't pushed it back further, too many people are still in doubt that this is actually it. Lots of people want it, but too many people are too used to waiting for it. This isn't helping pre-orders. Most people don't like ordering a game a year before it comes out. Once major advertising kicks in, the pre-orders will sky-rocket. It will do at least 500k U.S. pre-orders. Doesn't seem like much? GT games have a notorious history is pushing out 100k weeks for a few months on end. This console generation has certainly given rise to a new breed of 'core' gamers, where attachment rates are at a MUCH higher % than before for most games. 

Most people honestly doubt its release. Once they realize its out and in stores, the fury shall be unleased. Most people's "3 million WW sales" will be U.S. alone by the end of 2011, with ~1.5m in Japan and upwards of 5.5-6M in Others by the same date. It may take it until sometime 2012 to break the 10M mark, but it will happen.

Another reason it doesn't have tons of pre-orders is because of the current 'situation'. A lot of people who want GT5 don't own a PS3 yet. HW sales will be up for the entire month after the release. 

I know people like to babble on about how one game can't push HW like that and it won't sell that much because the PS3 doesn't have a huge user-base ATM..... etc. Look at it this way. Its one of the largest selling franchises on Playstation. To put it in retrospect for some people:

Grand Theft Auto Series (for Ps1/2/3)

GTA1 (PS): 2.32M

GTA2 (PS2): 3.42M

GTA3 (PS2): 11.6M

GTA: Vice CIty (PS2): 14.2M

GTA: San Andreas (PS2): 18.42M

GTA4 (PS3): 6.7M

Total for GTA Games on main PS console (not including addons): 56.65M

Average for GTA Games (56.65 million / 6 games): 9.44M

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Gran Turismo Series (PS1/2 Only)

GT1 (PS1): 10.85M

GT2 (PS1): 9.37M

GT3 (PS2): 14.89M

GT4 (PS2): 10.55M

Total for GT Games on main PS console: 45.66M (Actually 50.85M including 4/5 Prologue... with 5 Prologue being undertracked by ~1M)

Average for GT Games: 11.41M

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As you can see, even with the GTA games being the top sellers on the PS2 several times over, the GT racing series has remained strong throughout its history with the PS. IT HAS THE POTENTIAL. If you look at GT4s sales, it sold 770k week one in the U.S., which is about where GT5 will probably end up opening... but GT4 still went on to sell 10 million.

GT5 is doomed ...

Nah, after Uncharted 2 and Heavy Rain's opening I still think GT5 can sell 10 Million lifetime !!!  

I know GT is a huge series,(Sony's greatest flagship series) that's why I don't get all these concerns and doubts about how GT5 will sell, based on previous  sales records I think it will be just as big or possibly bigger than it's previous titles.