GT3, while it was bundled in summer 2000, was basically the only SKU in America though thanks to shortages.  If you wanted a PS2 that summer, you had to get one with GT3... I think that's in part why it's US sales are so inflated compared to the rest of the series.

Wii Play and Wii Sports probably would've sold 10m stand alone imo.  Of course, both likely would've been budget priced at launch too on their own (as Wii Sports was in Japan).

So what that added maybe 1 million to GT3 sales that summer.  Whose sales counts we going by anyway with GT3.  NPD doesnt count bundled software in thier totals.  Dont know what Sony does when they announce software sales.

Hysterical that you think WiiPlay would have sold 10m.  Maybe if it was $10.

Wii is dying.  We Nintendo fans have to wake up and admit it.  I do not know what has caused it but it is clearly happening.  Hope it doesn't force Nintendo to release a rushed follow up console.

Wii Play is $10.

The bundle continued past those months too though, into fall/holiday 2000.  I haven't seem an NPD ltd for GT3 in awhile, but iirc it was around 5m, meaning about ~1m bundle sales are the least it probably had given it shipped over 7m in North America.  

I think Wii Play would have been $20 stand alone, or maybe the mini-games would've been broken up and sold a-la-carte as 200-500 point WiiWare games.  As is, it essentially was a $10 game, and sold accordingly.  If it was $10 stand alone, it'd have still sold over 20m copies.

Consider this.  Even at the lower sales point at the moment, it is still at a higher pace than the PS2 was at this same point. 

Not only is not not dying (more like running at a good jog than sprinting) but a follow up console is definitley not being rushed.

Was the GC follow up rushed to market when GC sales were dropping and looked worse than N64 sales?  Not at all.  Their next console will hit the market when Nintendo feels their software designers need new hardware.  That is how they've always operated.  Sales do not have much bearing on it ever considering they profit regardless of the volume.

Not tryin to diss you but i have to say this is probably the most retarded comment i have seen on this thread! it seems anything you do not like or appreciate all of a sudden becomes non quality or shovelware. I think you still got a lot of growing up to do and realise that one mans trash is another mans gold. I will say this right now. If a game keeps selling over time and eventually hits a million plus, then that game is quality regardless of what the small gaming elite (like yourself) thinks. It shows that game has value for a lot of people. I thinks its time for alot of traditional gamers (or Hardcore as you like to think of yourselves HAH!!) have to accept that a lot of untraditonal gamers have joined the fray, and they like their untraditional games (for want of a better word).

p.s They are here to stay by the way. So i think it's time they got your respect because they are paying the same heard earned cash as the traditional gamers, for a past time they enjoy

Wii will continue to rein supremacy this Generation...Nothing will catch up to it now. 1st place sealed. 

Precisely. People praise how wii has so many multi milion sellers but they forget that those titles lack good competition unlike PS2 or hd consoles which have amazing selection of good titles to choose from.

Nice spin! How about this: if Wii had more quality games more of them would be million sellers? Sounds a bit more logical to me...