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Shorty11857 said:
cmeese47 said:

I mean what happens if Sony finally decides to launch a PS3 Arcade or decides to bundle 2 games together permanently instead of just during the holidays. What if they bring the white sku and play tv to America. For me I see a brighter future for the PS3 and many of you disagree. 


Can Sony even launch a PS3 arcade? Lots of PS3 games require installs and have much larger patches than 360 games, a PS3 arcade would still require a hard drive to even work


I couldn't say for certain but a 200 dollar PS3 would give Sony a serious boost. And maybe it can use the unlimited usb memory stick or have a cheap small hard drive. 



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zgamer5 said:
trunkswd said:
zgamer5 said:
trunkswd said:
thx1139 said:
cmeese47 said:

For all you doom and gloom people out there  consider this for a second. What does 360 have to offer after Gears 3 launches? The answer at the moment is nothing, they will be reliant on 3rd party sales. Sony on the other hand has a huge list of 2011 titles and will likely have a price cut to fall back on should they need to. Yes the 360s and price drop hurt Sony in the hardware race but this is the first week in quite a while 360 outsold PS3 in software. 

Long term outlook Sony> Microsoft

Short Term outlook Microsoft>Sony and Nintendo

We have heard this for years now.  MS this gen has deliberatly focused on showing titles that are basically in the next 12 months of release.

^ This. Expect atleast one or two major titles announced for fall 2011 at E3 2011.


7>3

Let me guess, there are 7 exclusive games announced for the PS3 for fall 2011? What are they?

i was talking about 2011. 

sony has anounced for 2011: socom 4, infamous 2, killzone 3, motorstorm:apocalypse,sorcery.

compared to gears 3 for ms.

my point is one or two major titles arent go make the 360 more interesting in 2011 in the ps3. 

You do have a point no doubt about it that the PS3 has some major depth in 2011, there are some great games coming out for it, but one thing your kinda ignoring is that Gears 3 is a proven bigger franchise than any game you just named this gen.  2 or 3 Megaton franchises CAN make a system sell better than 4 or so great franchises.

I'm sure MS hasn't even come close to revealing their full list of 2011 games and the exclusive game from Crytek Codename Kingdoms may end up being incredible.  Only time will tell.  



BenVTrigger said:
zgamer5 said:
trunkswd said:
zgamer5 said:
trunkswd said:
thx1139 said:
cmeese47 said:

For all you doom and gloom people out there  consider this for a second. What does 360 have to offer after Gears 3 launches? The answer at the moment is nothing, they will be reliant on 3rd party sales. Sony on the other hand has a huge list of 2011 titles and will likely have a price cut to fall back on should they need to. Yes the 360s and price drop hurt Sony in the hardware race but this is the first week in quite a while 360 outsold PS3 in software. 

Long term outlook Sony> Microsoft

Short Term outlook Microsoft>Sony and Nintendo

We have heard this for years now.  MS this gen has deliberatly focused on showing titles that are basically in the next 12 months of release.

^ This. Expect atleast one or two major titles announced for fall 2011 at E3 2011.


7>3

Let me guess, there are 7 exclusive games announced for the PS3 for fall 2011? What are they?

i was talking about 2011. 

sony has anounced for 2011: socom 4, infamous 2, killzone 3, motorstorm:apocalypse,sorcery.

compared to gears 3 for ms.

my point is one or two major titles arent go make the 360 more interesting in 2011 in the ps3. 

You do have a point no doubt about it that the PS3 has some major depth in 2011, there are some great games coming out for it, but one thing your kinda ignoring is that Gears 3 is a proven bigger franchise than any game you just named this gen.  2 or 3 Megaton franchises CAN make a system sell better than 4 or so great franchises.

I'm sure MS hasn't even come close to revealing their full list of 2011 games and the exclusive game from Crytek Codename Kingdoms may end up being incredible.  Only time will tell.  

true. gears 3 will definatly outsell 2,3 of the ps3 exclusives next year combined. i think the winnder of 2011 will be the one whos pumping out the best software, well if their isnt a price cut. many people are starting to have two consoles, and i think that those are the people who are buying 30 to 40% of consoles currently.



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zgamer5 said:
cmeese47 said:

I didn't write the number but I have Killzone 3, Infamous 2, Twisted Metal, Agent, Final Fantasy VS XIII, Ratchet and Clank, Socom 4, Last Guardian and Motor Storm Apocalypse. Of course there are more and some of those are likely 2012 titles. 

Sure Microsoft could surprise us they have continued to fight back the PS3 and certainly could match a price cut but without some new games how long can they continue to fight?

I mean what happens if Sony finally decides to launch a PS3 Arcade or decides to bundle 2 games together permanently instead of just during the holidays. What if they bring the white sku and play tv to America. For me I see a brighter future for the PS3 and many of you disagree. 

The truth is nobody knows what will happen in the future but at least this gives us something to talk about


ms are counting too much on kinect. 

wev seen that with great games and aproximatly the same price ps3>360 in sales. the slim push isnt going to last forever, so if kinect doesnt move units constantly for the next 4 years, other then price cuts i dont see the 360 accomplishing its 10 year life plan.

Wanna bet ?? Has much a su want 360 will be year for 10 or MORE years... Even if its dont sell more than Wii or Ps3 or whatever Microsoft is winning money on the 360 so why stop selling it ??



cmeese47 said:

I didn't write the number but I have Killzone 3, Infamous 2, Twisted Metal, Agent, Final Fantasy VS XIII, Ratchet and Clank, Socom 4, Last Guardian and Motor Storm Apocalypse. Of course there are more and some of those are likely 2012 titles. 

Sure Microsoft could surprise us they have continued to fight back the PS3 and certainly could match a price cut but without some new games how long can they continue to fight?

I mean what happens if Sony finally decides to launch a PS3 Arcade or decides to bundle 2 games together permanently instead of just during the holidays. What if they bring the white sku and play tv to America. For me I see a brighter future for the PS3 and many of you disagree. 

The truth is nobody knows what will happen in the future but at least this gives us something to talk about


What's interesting about this generation is that while Sony and Nintendo continue to market in a traditional way by letting rumors spread about new games and anouncing them years in advance, Microsoft has kept most of it's biggest Xbox 360 games secret until within a year or so. MS probably doesn't want next years games being talked about when they want everyone talking about this holiday season's big titles. I don't know which marketing strategy is better, but the reason you don't know many Xbox 360 games of 2011 and 2012 is becuase Microsoft doesn't want you to know about them. It's not becuase MS doesn't have anything, they just want you to buy Halo Reach, Fable 3, Kinect, etc. We pretty much know what Sony has planned, their won't be any surprised at retail next year for PS3, but MS has shown that they keep their best stuff under wraps untill they they want to show it. It may be a mystery, but you can bet that MS will have plenty coming out next year, just like they did this year and the years before.



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trunkswd said:
zgamer5 said:
trunkswd said:
zgamer5 said:
trunkswd said:
thx1139 said:
cmeese47 said:

For all you doom and gloom people out there  consider this for a second. What does 360 have to offer after Gears 3 launches? The answer at the moment is nothing, they will be reliant on 3rd party sales. Sony on the other hand has a huge list of 2011 titles and will likely have a price cut to fall back on should they need to. Yes the 360s and price drop hurt Sony in the hardware race but this is the first week in quite a while 360 outsold PS3 in software. 

Long term outlook Sony> Microsoft

Short Term outlook Microsoft>Sony and Nintendo

We have heard this for years now.  MS this gen has deliberatly focused on showing titles that are basically in the next 12 months of release.

^ This. Expect atleast one or two major titles announced for fall 2011 at E3 2011.


7>3

Let me guess, there are 7 exclusive games announced for the PS3 for fall 2011? What are they?

i was talking about 2011. 

sony has anounced for 2011: socom 4, infamous 2, killzone 3, motorstorm:apocalypse,sorcery.

compared to gears 3 for ms.

my point is one or two major titles arent go make the 360 more interesting in 2011 in the ps3. 

Its all about tastes. I would prefer Gears 3, as I have played the first 2 to death, over those games while you would take those games over Gears 3. Either way next years line up isn't set in stone for either console especially for the 360 as MS doesn't announce games years in advance. I expect the Crytek exclusive Codename Kingdoms and Forza 4 to be released next year as well as some 'core' kinect games, like the Star Wars game.

isnt the star wars kinect game going to be a launch title?

true its all about tastes. but like godofwar3ever said the ps3 list has more variety.

"core" kinect games? until one releases it doesnt exist, hence the possibility of a core kinect game is slim to 0, mainly because kinect is their for the casual audience, and because it has limitations.



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iHuGi said:
zgamer5 said:
cmeese47 said:

I didn't write the number but I have Killzone 3, Infamous 2, Twisted Metal, Agent, Final Fantasy VS XIII, Ratchet and Clank, Socom 4, Last Guardian and Motor Storm Apocalypse. Of course there are more and some of those are likely 2012 titles. 

Sure Microsoft could surprise us they have continued to fight back the PS3 and certainly could match a price cut but without some new games how long can they continue to fight?

I mean what happens if Sony finally decides to launch a PS3 Arcade or decides to bundle 2 games together permanently instead of just during the holidays. What if they bring the white sku and play tv to America. For me I see a brighter future for the PS3 and many of you disagree. 

The truth is nobody knows what will happen in the future but at least this gives us something to talk about


ms are counting too much on kinect. 

wev seen that with great games and aproximatly the same price ps3>360 in sales. the slim push isnt going to last forever, so if kinect doesnt move units constantly for the next 4 years, other then price cuts i dont see the 360 accomplishing its 10 year life plan.

Wanna bet ?? Has much a su want 360 will be year for 10 or MORE years... Even if its dont sell more than Wii or Ps3 or whatever Microsoft is winning money on the 360 so why stop selling it ??


ok il bet, but if kinect sales the bet is off, since i said if kinect doesnt moves units. 

anyway il see you in 2015!

how about 2 year avatar/sig control?



Being in 3rd place never felt so good

zgamer5 said:
iHuGi said:
zgamer5 said:
cmeese47 said:

I didn't write the number but I have Killzone 3, Infamous 2, Twisted Metal, Agent, Final Fantasy VS XIII, Ratchet and Clank, Socom 4, Last Guardian and Motor Storm Apocalypse. Of course there are more and some of those are likely 2012 titles. 

Sure Microsoft could surprise us they have continued to fight back the PS3 and certainly could match a price cut but without some new games how long can they continue to fight?

I mean what happens if Sony finally decides to launch a PS3 Arcade or decides to bundle 2 games together permanently instead of just during the holidays. What if they bring the white sku and play tv to America. For me I see a brighter future for the PS3 and many of you disagree. 

The truth is nobody knows what will happen in the future but at least this gives us something to talk about


ms are counting too much on kinect. 

wev seen that with great games and aproximatly the same price ps3>360 in sales. the slim push isnt going to last forever, so if kinect doesnt move units constantly for the next 4 years, other then price cuts i dont see the 360 accomplishing its 10 year life plan.

Wanna bet ?? Has much a su want 360 will be year for 10 or MORE years... Even if its dont sell more than Wii or Ps3 or whatever Microsoft is winning money on the 360 so why stop selling it ??


ok il bet, but if kinect sales the bet is off, since i said if kinect doesnt moves units. 

anyway il see you in 2015!

how about 2 year avatar/sig control?

4 years avatar and sig control.



iHuGi said:

Wanna bet ?? Has much a su want 360 will be year for 10 or MORE years... Even if its dont sell more than Wii or Ps3 or whatever Microsoft is winning money on the 360 so why stop selling it ??


ok il bet, but if kinect sales the bet is off, since i said if kinect doesnt moves units. 

anyway il see you in 2015!

how about 2 year avatar/sig control?

4 years avatar and sig control.

deal, hopefully il be alive in 2019 to witness me or you getting back their avatar and sig.

this is interesting/ends sarcasm



Being in 3rd place never felt so good

PS3 isn't close to Wii so much as Wii has fallen down to PS3 level sales. PS3 is doing quite poorly too, remember that we're into August now and PS3 Slim was very widely known this time last year, and sales were very poor (93K, PS2 was nipping at it's heels). Being up 60% against last year's August sales is nothing to be happy about.

Wii is getting a slew of software in the short term, if they are big hits Wii will recover for a while. Any risk of Wii falling into third place again however will depend as ever on software, but tbh there's no reason to believe we won't have yet another drought after the holiday period this year.



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