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hatmoza on 20 August 2010

This game is moving way too fast. I'm gone not 4 hours and there's already 130 posts.



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dtewi on 20 August 2010
theprof00 said:
Khuutra said:

Activity this intense for this long a period of time actually makes me kind of grateful to be dead

Just wait til I bring you back from Hades.


Ex-cuse me?

What the hell is this?



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

theprof00 on 20 August 2010
theRepublic said:
theprof00 said:
theRepublic said:

Does everyone notice how I am looking at many different players, yet SciFiBoy's sole focus seems to be on me?  He has ONE vote against him.  Overreact much?  Not to mention tunnel vision is a scum trait.


Yeah does anyone else notice how theRepublic is creating as much confusion as possible?

Ever heard of projection?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

in what sense?

me or scifi?



c03n3nj0 on 20 August 2010
SciFiBoy2.0 said:
c03n3nj0 said:
theprof00 said:
c03n3nj0 said:
theprof00 said:
c03n3nj0 said:

That was a great find. I read that before but roleblocker didn't pop into my mind. 

Now that we know the stories actually give clues as to what happened during the night (poseidon) we shouldn't ignore this roleblocker. 

Although, there's still the difference between the blocker being pro-town or anti-town. 

EDIT - I just made a sad realizing I said exactly what TruckO said.  

Read more of my posts. 

Basically, it's either their role blocker, or ours, and either way, both sides could have one. 

It seems like the situation is like a capture the flag (the flag in this case being a serial killer). It would be hard to imagine if both sides didn't have similar abilities.

A lot of times both sides don't have similar abilities.

Ok, well, I was under the impression they had at least basic ones. 

I'm not saying it's impossible. If the mafia have extra roles like a roleblocker or cop then they're usually gimped (like the roleblock only being used once) 

But my point was that it isn't necessarily going to happen. 

That role blocker could be either mafia or town. If both sides have one then that's still bad, as the mafia could still get screw shit up with theirs. 

have we considered the possibility that Hatmoza could just as easily be Mafia? his role could easily be what he says, just with a different alignment, could it not?

im not saying I think its likely, but its a possibility that I think we should be aware of.

Wouldn't that be completely unfair without anything to counter it? 

I mean, if there were psychiatrists on both sides, and hatmoza was the scum side, then the pro-town one would have come up and attacked hatmoza. 



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c03n3nj0 on 20 August 2010
theprof00 said:
c03n3nj0 said:
theprof00 said:
c03n3nj0 said:
theprof00 said:
c03n3nj0 said:

That was a great find. I read that before but roleblocker didn't pop into my mind. 

Now that we know the stories actually give clues as to what happened during the night (poseidon) we shouldn't ignore this roleblocker. 

Although, there's still the difference between the blocker being pro-town or anti-town. 

EDIT - I just made a sad realizing I said exactly what TruckO said.  

Read more of my posts. 

Basically, it's either their role blocker, or ours, and either way, both sides could have one. 

It seems like the situation is like a capture the flag (the flag in this case being a serial killer). It would be hard to imagine if both sides didn't have similar abilities.

A lot of times both sides don't have similar abilities.

Ok, well, I was under the impression they had at least basic ones. 

I'm not saying it's impossible. If the mafia have extra roles like a roleblocker or cop then they're usually gimped (like the roleblock only being used once) 

But my point was that it isn't necessarily going to happen. 

That role blocker could be either mafia or town. If both sides have one then that's still bad, as the mafia could still get screw shit up with theirs. 

how could they screw up? They know who they are right? It's not like 

"OMFG I tried to investigate that mafia guy and I got blocked he's definitely mafia" it's

"there's a good possibility that i was randomly chosen while I picked a target randomly"

No, I meant screw shit up for the town. 

As in, block hat or important pro-town roles. 



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SciFiBoy2.0 on 20 August 2010
c03n3nj0 said:
SciFiBoy2.0 said:
c03n3nj0 said:
theprof00 said:
c03n3nj0 said:
theprof00 said:
c03n3nj0 said:

That was a great find. I read that before but roleblocker didn't pop into my mind. 

Now that we know the stories actually give clues as to what happened during the night (poseidon) we shouldn't ignore this roleblocker. 

Although, there's still the difference between the blocker being pro-town or anti-town. 

EDIT - I just made a sad realizing I said exactly what TruckO said.  

Read more of my posts. 

Basically, it's either their role blocker, or ours, and either way, both sides could have one. 

It seems like the situation is like a capture the flag (the flag in this case being a serial killer). It would be hard to imagine if both sides didn't have similar abilities.

A lot of times both sides don't have similar abilities.

Ok, well, I was under the impression they had at least basic ones. 

I'm not saying it's impossible. If the mafia have extra roles like a roleblocker or cop then they're usually gimped (like the roleblock only being used once) 

But my point was that it isn't necessarily going to happen. 

That role blocker could be either mafia or town. If both sides have one then that's still bad, as the mafia could still get screw shit up with theirs. 

have we considered the possibility that Hatmoza could just as easily be Mafia? his role could easily be what he says, just with a different alignment, could it not?

im not saying I think its likely, but its a possibility that I think we should be aware of.

Wouldn't that be completely unfair without anything to counter it? 

I mean, if there were psychiatrists on both sides, and hatmoza was the scum side, then the pro-town one would have come up and attacked hatmoza. 

depends how many mafia theyre are I guess, like I said, its just a thought, I dunno we can completly dismiss it anyway.



sabby_e17 on 20 August 2010
SciFiBoy2.0 said:
sabby_e17 said:
SciFiBoy2.0 said:
sabby_e17 said:
SciFiBoy2.0 said:
sabby_e17 said:
TruckOSaurus said:
hatmoza said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Vetteman94 said:

How is his elaborate theory any better than the other that has been laid out in his opposition?  

Hell I'll play the speculation game for a minute here.  It seems the Gods are pro-town,  its probably a bad assumption but i think its true at least some of them are,  so why and how would he be able to turn a character to aid the very people Kratos seeks for revenge?  And he claims to be someone who also plots against those very Gods


Posting from work, I haven't read to whole thread yet but there was something in this post I wanted to go back on before I forget.

In this post Vetteman is saying "It seems the Gods are pro-town", why would he have to make this an assumption? ANSWER: He's not a God (or he's a dissident God) and he's trying to figure out who the "pro-towns" are so he can like he's one of them. Add to that his jumpy behavior after hatmoza's defense and he's earned my vote.

Vote: Vetteman94

I agree with this.

However, read the above posts and convince us you're not the Kratos. And if you are, maybe we can arrange for you to be a vigilante still!

I personally want it to be Heph >:[ I'll have so much pleasure in lynching him

Sorry to quote myself yet again but nobody except hatmoza commented on this information I dug up on Vetteman. Since j0 asked for people we suspect most, I thought I'd bring it up again.

I'd like to know what everyone thinks of it? Especially Vetteman of course.

Vote: Vetteman94


I've been suspecting Vetteman, Silver-tiger and SciFiBoy for a long time because of them voting Hatmoza based on other players analysis. It was almost like they were bandwagoning on Hatmoza when some other guy dishes out some "evidence". They completely ignore Hatmoza's role-claim and why it would be a very risky thing to do (lynch him). Not only that, but they're ready to unvote Hatmoza when there's some other guy's analyisis on why Hatmoza shouldn't be lynched.

I dont recall voting for Hatmoza...

and I never ignored his role claim...I queried some of his activities, and I even brought up the risk of lynching him myself earlier today...why do you and TheRepublic happen to have the same selective memories? and why are you posting this now, so conviently just after I challenged TheRepublic and his suspicion of me?


I haven't been going back to check previous posts because theres so many posts, and I just don't feel like reading atm (its 1.30 am here)

I'll go back and read the thread tomorrow. You did however agree with noname with his huge analysis rather quickly. I feel these kinda actions are scummy (players hoping onto other ideas)

Also, I haven't been posting "this now", I've been doing it since some time. Go check.

several people have done the bolded throughout the game...why only focus on me?

im not saying you only posted now, im saying this is the only time ive seen you post and put suspicion on me, and even if its not, the fact you chose to re-iterate it so close to my post in reply to TheRepublic does seem very convinient to say the least.

And thats why I suspect BOTH vetteman and Silver-tiger. Dtewi did the same when agreeing to lynch Nikells which again is very scummy behaviour but I'm not sure of him because he seemed very paranoid previously.

Also I'd like to know who YOUR suspects are, because I'm curious to know.

you and TheRepublic are now on my radar, you both seem to have ignored many of my posts in order to suit your view of me, not to mention that your post to suspect me came so quickly after I challenged TheRepublic, seems to me that you are almost working together...

Supermario is obvious suspicious by his absence, which is why I have called for the mod to contact him.

Squilliam I also have doubts about, he seems to not be around much, when he is, he doesnt do a great deal (not lurker like though in fairness), I would like him to contribute more if he can.



My first post stating that I suspected you came way before therepublic. Maybe I did miss some of your posts or misunderstood them so I'll re-read the thread tomorrow. Right now it's 2 am here so I don't feel like re-reading the whole damn thread right now.




SciFiBoy2.0 on 20 August 2010
sabby_e17 said:



My first post stating that I suspected you came way before therepublic. Maybe I did miss some of your posts or misunderstood them so I'll re-read the thread tomorrow. Right now it's 2 am here so I don't feel like re-reading the whole damn thread right now.


okay, well I must have missed that, its 2am here also, plus I had to read like 50 posts when I came online.

like I said though, you picked an interesting time to re-iterate that suspicion...



theRepublic on 20 August 2010
theprof00 said:
theprof00 said:
theRepublic said:
theprof00 said:

You can't even admit that it was the wrong thing to do. Voting nikells was a stab in the dark, it really was.

You voted for Nikells too, remember?


And then I explained why it was wrong. Skip over that?


Also, notice how I was the first to vote for him?

I chose because of the situation. I'm not a tacked on vote. And I went against the stream both ways, I didn't go with anything. Look for yourself.

"Voting nikells was a stab in the dark, it really was."

That was your accusation of Dtewi.  Yet you were the first to jump in with Hatmoza and vote for Nikells.  Accusing someone of what you did your self is mighty strange.



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theRepublic on 20 August 2010
theprof00 said:

oh lol no not you. you are way below my radar right now. He doesn't seem to be reading all the posts before he himself posts, right?

Everytime he writes something, it's like "I just answered that question"

I post as I read through the thread.  It doesn't ever hurt to look back at previous posts.



Switch Code: SW-7377-9189-3397 -- Nintendo Network ID: theRepublic -- Steam ID: theRepublic

Now Playing
Switch - Super Mario Maker 2 (2019)
Switch - The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening (2019)
Switch - Bastion (2011/2018)
3DS - Star Fox 64 3D (2011)
3DS - Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (Trilogy) (2005/2014)
Wii U - Darksiders: Warmastered Edition (2010/2017)
Mobile - The Simpson's Tapped Out and Yugioh Duel Links
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