Same principle

How is  Israels actions affecting the situation

I'm not commenting on that PalIS hornets nest  

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Foreign-Policy/2010/0811/Is-ground-zero-mosque-imam-best-choice-for-diplomatic-mission-to-Mideast

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/imam_unmosqued_0XbZMwCvHAVdRZEKgx29AK

Israel/Palestine situation is no where near the same thing as 911.

The mosque is being built on legally owned land that isn't even on ground zero, or really that close, you can't even see it from either site.

Settler expansions is on occupied territory that is not legally owned by Israel, thus it is not just a provocation as you see it. It is continued theft.

In both cases Obama is upholding the law and the rights of people.

1st link: Umm any unbiased mind can see some truth in his two small quotes here. US policies towards the Middle East has assisted the creation of animosity towards the US. That animosity is part of what Al Queda and similar organizations use to gain converts to their twisted plans. Many people who are not Muslim have made the same remarks and a little open dialogue on how the US foreign policy acts in this region (including one sided support for the illegal actions of Israel) is simply fuel for this type of hatred.

2nd link: He's an Arab who supports a pro-Palestinian charity that was trying to bring much needed aid to the largest prison in the world. Wow that's a shocker.

I think you need to be a little more objective. His history has all been about strengthening an American Islamic voice, one that is built around the American values of freedom and modernization. Those actions far outweigh your disagreement with him on these rather poor choices to proven him to be shady. Maybe read synopsis of his many books.

Yup can't disagree with you there. Terrible links sufficiently embarrassed

I would never want to stop the building of the Mosque considering it is legal. 

But I can't get passed those towers and the reason they give for selecting that area it seems like a slap

And that Imam does not consider Hamas a terror organization it is true

You would have to be nieve if you didn't question his motives

This topic has given me a bad headache

I should go to the GaGa thread

I think what you would find if you did a comprehensive poll on this is that the vast majority of people believe that they should have the right to build this mosque; and the vast majority of people believe that it is a bad idea (and it is in bad taste) that this mosque is built.

Where I think Obama missed the mark in his initial support is that he didn’t present it in a way that he found the building of the mosque (in any way) objectionable; and even in his clarifications he has avoided doing that. Essentially, it is the difference from an individual saying that "I find hate speech offensive but an individual’s freedom of speech needs to be protected even if they’re saying offensive things" and "There is nothing wrong with hate speech because we have freedom of speech"

If I was in Obama’s position, I would have said something (along the lines of) "While I recognize that these individuals have a right to build a mosque anywhere, I would implore them to choose another location in order to respect the victims of the 9-11 attacks."

Why should they consider another location? That's what kills me.

Its 2 blocks way and is not much closer than two other mosques already in the area. The 2 blocks equates to over 400ft, you can't even see either spot from the other.

I would understand if this was a planned mosque on the actual ground zero site or even right across the street. But it isn't. Its not really that close. This entire argument is simply brainwashing by the media to create an issue where one shouldn't even exist.

Wait I feel much better now

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/hamas_nod_for_gz_mosque_cSohH9eha8sNZMTDz0VVPI