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Clavelle on 12 August 2010


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leo-j on 13 August 2010
Rath said:
axumblade said:
Rath said:

Bets are on that it's going to be just awful. An auto-tuned mess of boring electro-pop with meaningless lyrics.

Lets hope she suprises me because I'm not looking forward to having to hear all of the singles being played everywhere again.

I think you have Lady Gaga confused with Ke$ha....afaik Lady Gaga doesn't actually need autotune.

Then why does she use it so very extensively?

Also Kesha is so, so, so much worse.


when did she use it



 

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The Ghost of RubangB on 13 August 2010
leo-j said:
Rath said:
axumblade said:
Rath said:

Bets are on that it's going to be just awful. An auto-tuned mess of boring electro-pop with meaningless lyrics.

Lets hope she suprises me because I'm not looking forward to having to hear all of the singles being played everywhere again.

I think you have Lady Gaga confused with Ke$ha....afaik Lady Gaga doesn't actually need autotune.

Then why does she use it so very extensively?

Also Kesha is so, so, so much worse.

when did she use it

Is she making pop music for a major label?  Yes.  That means they autotune her.  It's been a trick of the industry for decades.  Just because she doesn't over-use it as an intentional part of the song like T-Pain and some others do doesn't mean they're not fixing her notes.  Lady Gaga ain't no young Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey, mmmkay.



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otoniel on 13 August 2010
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
kooties said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

Back to reality....Lady Gaga is nothing more than a gimmick. Period. She wont define any generation and she is definately not on the same level as Kurt Cabain, John Lennon, Jim Morrison, or Jimmy Hendrix (people who actually defined Generations because there music meant something and wasnt just a catchy beat with a digitally enhanced voice) 


typical elitist bullshit.

Not generation defining? She's become one of the most recognized artists of the late noughties and she's only done two albums so far. The era of music is defined by what was the most visible / popular at that time, and not what a minority thought was the best of the era. (Personally Vedder > Cobain)

Also it's really easy to easily to simplify artists to the point of easy dismissal, such as the tired shoegazers, 4 powerchord songs, average vocalists, and simple pentatonic soloists that you just listed. (I don't mean that, I love The Doors and Nirvana, but the way you presented that argument is akin to the typical elitist that listens only to local scene and the 5 bands he heard as a kid.)

You have quite the vivid imagination,lol. First of all what is the late noughties? I though this was the 2010's. Now to address your first statement. What defines an era of music is not always necessarily what gets the most radio airplay or is played on MTV constantly. Brittany spears sold millions of albums, ect, and years later is literally completely forgotten about (because her music meant nothing) It's music with meaning that actually reaches people in that generation that ends up defining it.

How am I being an elitist? I gave a short list of musicians who actually defined generations and I can add more (Thome Yorke,Black Francis, Layne Staley, Eddie Vedder, Trent Reznor, Maynard Keenan).Here's also a more  recent list of artists who have more talent in their left finger than Lady Gaga? ( Muse,  Arcade Fire, Avenge Sevenfold, Shinedown, Stone Sour).

My main point was is that she will not define a generation. She brings nothing original to the music scene besides the costume's she wears on stage (her image was manufactured by the record company anyways). There's nothing wrong in listening to catchy pop music but to take an artist like Lady Gaga as serious as Leo J does is rather hilarious. 

you have a very valid point 

but dont blind yourself, 

Britney Spears is still VERY relevant 

after more than 10 years she still sells records like crazy 

now if instead of mentioning Britney you have chosen Christina then i would had give your post a perfect 10 



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leo-j on 13 August 2010

well the entire mainstream media, and her fans take her as serious as I do.. in fact so does:

 

Queen

Elton John

Yoko Ono

Grace Jones

Britney Spears

And...Madonna..



 

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Rath on 13 August 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCKc_y86mCc

 

Listen to that. The auto-tune is reasonably blatant.



Rath on 13 August 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCKc_y86mCc

 

Listen to that. The auto-tune is reasonably blatant.



leo-j on 13 August 2010
Rath said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCKc_y86mCc

 

Listen to that. The auto-tune is reasonably blatant.


compare that to this:



 

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Rath on 13 August 2010

Umm. One sounds like it's autotuned the other doesn't...?



The Ghost of RubangB on 13 August 2010
leo-j said:

well the entire mainstream media, and her fans take her as serious as I do.. in fact so does:

 

Queen

Elton John

Yoko Ono

Grace Jones

Britney Spears

And...Madonna..

Last I czeched, she's a Grace Jones ripoff and Grace Jones knows it.  So when she asked Grace Jones to do a duet, she said hell no, because she doesn't work with no-talent hacks that are ripping off her own outfits from 20-30 years ago.  I think I posted the interview where Grace said that in one of your previous gushing-for-Gaga threads.



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