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routsounmanman on 12 August 2010
Acevil said:
routsounmanman said:

I'll never admit that FFXIII is a better game than FFX on the battle system alone. Seriously, FFXIII's was ATROCIOUS. No tactic, too flashy, shallow (well, OK, a bit of depth and tactic in some missions).

And the endless HP on even the weakest enemy is simply idiotic.

I had no problem with the story, and the setting/world was among the best in any FF yet. Battle system completely ruined it for me, though.

If you are wondering why I said last two, I mean FFX-2 and FFXII (FFX-2 is considered mainline)...not FFX. If that was directed at me.

It was directed at you, and others who've said the same (darth comes to mind). You wrote mainline FF games, so I thought FFX and FFXII. Misunderstanding



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Cheebee on 12 August 2010
ClaudeLv250 said:

The majority of their best content was delivered on handhelds. Not surprisingly - the mjaority of people ripping int SE love to ignore or dismiss handheld gaming.

QFT.



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lostintheodyssey on 12 August 2010
Christian973 said:
lostintheodyssey said:
2000cc said:

despite all the criticism Square enix seem to be getting here, they are still religiously adored in japan, plus I tink its become fashiionable to dislike them in english speaking countries

Having been in japan at the time of DQ9 and FF13 release days, they were basically national holidays

Plus there is a lot of positive fedback from over there as to the direction they are taking, to generalise, the majority love it,   there will always be a few detractors (like me with ff7) but the majority I talked to at least seemed very happy

To use wider figures also FF13 got rated best game ever in famitsu's reader poll in Jan this year, not best FF, not best RPG but best GAME ever, and regardless what you say about famitsu it is the most widely subscribed to gaming japanese magazine so is a good measure of popular opinion based on that (as it is the largest representative sample of the indusrtry), as this was a readers poll the magazine staff had no say in the outcome.

Dengeki also loved the game wanting to give it 120 out of 100

Then it came to the west and got very 'mixed' reviews.

all I'm saying is there are plenty out there who think square enix is getting better (including me but I am admittely japanese biased) so things may not improve for western square fans ( i hope they do but just saying). It appaers the two fan bases may be becoming somewhat mutually exclusive. The things that we appreciate in wrpgs are not highly regarded there (though I havent like a Wrpg in a LONG time) and we may simply be looking at a cultural disconnect 

I think this whole Square Enix hate in the west is being greatly exaggerated.  Most people still like Square Enix and have no problem with them.  Final Fantasy was released here in the west and it has become the fastest selling final fantasy title in history when you combine the 360 PS3 numbers.  It's the bestselling rpg period so far this gen beating out all of the wrpg's that people are praising this gen such as Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Oblivion etc.  If people thought the game was so terrible it wouldn't have sold so well. 

Using vgchartz numbers the game has sold almost as much as final fantasy 12 so the only titles that have completely outsold it are FF8, 10, and 7.  Final Fantasy 13 hasn't even been out for a year yet or received a major price drop in the United States so I suspect that when it is all said and done FF13 can overtake FF8 and FF10 to become the 2nd most popular Final Fantasy title in history.

I am one of those people who think that the quality of Square Enix games have dropped but not as much as others because I still enjoy their games.  I still think they are one of the best jrpg developers in the world.  I do however think they have gotten a lot better in other areas such as localization because it use to take a 1 year or more for games to make it to us overseas now it seems like most major titles only take 3 to 6 months to make it over here and I think the english voice acting in most of their games are well done for the most part.


Actually FF8 was the fastest selling FF game in History.

Yeah I should have been more clear FF13 is the fastest selling Final Fantasy title in the west not worldwide.



lestatdark on 12 August 2010
hatmoza said:
IvorEvilen said:
hatmoza said:
lestatdark said:
hatmoza said:

Crisis Core is the only good game that comes to mind since Dragon Quest VIII

If they were to get their shit together, they would have already done so. They are giving us the same exact formula over and over again with DQ yet they claim to want to redesign the genre with each FF release.. 

If the gaming industry were to have a freak, it would be Square Enix.


*sigh* 

This from the guy who did one of the crappiest reviews I've ever read. And I've been to really crappy sites and blogs. You sir have no morality whatsoever to speak about DQ.

But go ahead and bash on DQ, probably one of the last true representatives of the JRPG genre and with DQIX, one of it's best exponents. 

Morality? Lol.

Also DQ wasn't bad, it just wasnt that great nor something I haven't already experienced from previous DQ titles.

My review doesn't lie. Call it crappy all you like. it won't change the score. On the contrary, It only makes me more confident in my work :)

Wait... how does someone calling your review crappy make you more confident in your work?  ...that doesn't make sense o_O.  Wouldn't you want to try and learn, if at all possible, from the criticism?

Anyway, I'm just glad that Dragon Quest doesn't change itself too much with each following game.  If I wanted a totally unique experience I would go buy a game from a series I haven't experienced yet.

because it's the only tactic anyone who doesn't have a good argument can resort to.

criticisms are always welcome btw. I welcome and learn from them from the team staff and some members, but unfortunately, someone upset about a score is not my problem. 


Oh Hatmoza, blind as ever I see.

Pretty much everyone in the review comment panel called out your inaccuracies and inconsistencies. They were very blatant, especially because some of them were in the same paragraph.

I won't go all over again with the same discussion, anyone can go to the review page and see the comments for themselves. You choose to believe whatever you want and read whatever you want, fact is people saw the faults of your review, and they were many.

And to get my point clear, as I did in the review page, I really don't give a damn about what score you gave the game. I care about the content of the review, which showed how immature the actual review was.



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Boutros on 12 August 2010
hatmoza said:
Boutros said:
hatmoza said:
Boutros said:

It's not only Square Enix. I'm looking at you Atlus.


That's it! Your not my friend anymore *removes from buddy list* :P

All I want is my SMT on my PS3 :/

Help me out here. What is SMT D:

DUH!

It's Shin Megami Tensei!!

It's their biggest franchise. They released a couple on the DS but beuh. I think the SMT franchise includes Persona.

I would love Persona 5.



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dunno001 on 12 August 2010
Boutros said:
hatmoza said:

Help me out here. What is SMT D:

DUH!

It's Shin Megami Tensei!!

It's their biggest franchise. They released a couple on the DS but beuh. I think the SMT franchise includes Persona.

I would love Persona 5.

Quick note- the SMT tag on Persona only applies outside of Japan. Taking a close look at the covers, they are seperate there. And initially, Persona (full title- Revelations: Persona) was also seperate in the US; for some reason, at Persona 3, Atlus USA added the SMT line to it. And with Atlus USA contracting out English versions to Europe and Australia, that line stuck for the other areas.

And yes, I'd love a P5 also. I'm guessing it'll be PSP, what with the 1 and 3 remakes there. Though I could also see the DS (or 3DS) using the assets from the other games there...



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thelifatree on 12 August 2010
Boutros said:
hatmoza said:
Boutros said:
hatmoza said:
Boutros said:

It's not only Square Enix. I'm looking at you Atlus.


That's it! Your not my friend anymore *removes from buddy list* :P

All I want is my SMT on my PS3 :/

Help me out here. What is SMT D:

DUH!

It's Shin Megami Tensei!!

It's their biggest franchise. They released a couple on the DS but beuh. I think the SMT franchise includes Persona.

I would love Persona 5.


SMT Only includes persona in not japan. I believe. but you most likely are not in japan so yes



thelifatree on 12 August 2010
lestatdark said:
hatmoza said:
IvorEvilen said:
hatmoza said:

 

 

Morality? Lol.

Also DQ wasn't bad, it just wasnt that great nor something I haven't already experienced from previous DQ titles.

My review doesn't lie. Call it crappy all you like. it won't change the score. On the contrary, It only makes me more confident in my work :)

Wait... how does someone calling your review crappy make you more confident in your work?  ...that doesn't make sense o_O.  Wouldn't you want to try and learn, if at all possible, from the criticism?

Anyway, I'm just glad that Dragon Quest doesn't change itself too much with each following game.  If I wanted a totally unique experience I would go buy a game from a series I haven't experienced yet.

because it's the only tactic anyone who doesn't have a good argument can resort to.

criticisms are always welcome btw. I welcome and learn from them from the team staff and some members, but unfortunately, someone upset about a score is not my problem. 


Oh Hatmoza, blind as ever I see.

Pretty much everyone in the review comment panel called out your inaccuracies and inconsistencies. They were very blatant, especially because some of them were in the same paragraph.

I won't go all over again with the same discussion, anyone can go to the review page and see the comments for themselves. You choose to believe whatever you want and read whatever you want, fact is people saw the faults of your review, and they were many.

And to get my point clear, as I did in the review page, I really don't give a damn about what score you gave the game. I care about the content of the review, which showed how immature the actual review was.

this is at hatmoza. you use SE complaining about FFXIII changing as an argument and then say they shouldn't have changed. Then say DQ didn't bring you anything you didn't experience with previous dragon quest titles. But isn't that what you wanted with the FF titles? So why should Dragon Quest be treated differently.



Acevil on 12 August 2010
routsounmanman said:
Acevil said:
routsounmanman said:

I'll never admit that FFXIII is a better game than FFX on the battle system alone. Seriously, FFXIII's was ATROCIOUS. No tactic, too flashy, shallow (well, OK, a bit of depth and tactic in some missions).

And the endless HP on even the weakest enemy is simply idiotic.

I had no problem with the story, and the setting/world was among the best in any FF yet. Battle system completely ruined it for me, though.

If you are wondering why I said last two, I mean FFX-2 and FFXII (FFX-2 is considered mainline)...not FFX. If that was directed at me.

It was directed at you, and others who've said the same (darth comes to mind). You wrote mainline FF games, so I thought FFX and FFXII. Misunderstanding

Sadly FFX-2 is considered mainline. 



 

MrT-Tar on 13 August 2010
rastari said:

I think they've been good, But we they could have been far better, we need some 2d goodness tbh, Maybe a secret of mana 2 or a chrono trigger 2 would rock. I really want some epic 2d jrpg goodness like we used to have.


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