Why are we talking about Biden or Palin? Neither of them will be there parties respective candidates in 2012.

And The only way Obama can win, is if whomever he runs against his party can generate hate for. This is why Kerry lost to Bush. The Republicans were able to show why he would have been a horrible president (and they were right).

If the Republicans are smart, and put someone like Bobby Jindal against Obama, there is no way Obama can win.

If it's Palin, Obama will win a second term.

Anyone but Obama isn't going to work.  Anyone but Bush with Kerry didn't work.  No guarantee Jindal will be able to do anything either.  The point about Palin being brought up, is she is like the lead celebrity of the Tea Party and is horrible as a choice.  You have number of GOP insiders who have said she  isn't a good candidate, and that was before she quit her position as governor.

If people want to discuss Obama not have any chance of a second term, they need to discuss candidates that would have a shot of actually being liked.  The GOP needs to come up with someone who can help salvage the GOP brand.  But, it still may be too early.  2016 may end up being the spot, because the field will be wide open then for the Democrats.

That's phenominally lazy and apathetic.  "I'm going to re-elect Obama just because, y'know, he's already been president for four years... might as well."  That's as bad as the general idea that he was largely elected because he's black... or rather, black-ish.  Which Howard Stern proved brilliantly.

Put some fucking care and thought into who you vote for.  Unless of course you believe we're still in the 18 month period which Obama promised would have us removed from conflicts in the Middle East.  And we're not by the way--and those conflicts are far from over.  More deployments to Iraq are still forthcoming.  Hey, you've got to hand it to him, he did a great job of maintaining almost all of Bush's policies, and an even better job putting the repair job of the economy right into the hands of the assholes that broke it in the first place.  I mean, hey, kudos to him, right?  He's black and President! 

He's also worse than Bush and Clinton. 

The main reason I believe he will not win, is that I honestly think the economy will get worse by the next election. I think the job reports we have been getting are not accurate, I think there are far more unemployed than we are told. I really do not see how any of actions Obama has taken has helped. Wall street has not recovered, the housing market does not look like it has recovered, what have we taken from the mass amounts of money spent in bail outs? what new resources do we have to recover? Economic concerns will be at the forefront of this election as so many americans are suffering right now. That is my opinion on the matter. Hopefully we will get the most voter turn out we have had in a long time. And I am all for a third party also, maybe a conservitive pary that does not have a unified social stance, but just wants to lower taxes.

Bush won in 2004, despite things not being good.  You have to offer alternatives to people, or they won't vote for your candidate.  That is how it is.  The GOP needs to offer answers to people, so people will support them.  They do need a message.

And the message of lower taxes doesn't resonate if the economy is worse.  People who aren't working don't care about lower taxes.  Lower taxes also failed to produce jobs when the last administration was in charge.

That's not how it's going to go down. Obama is very much hated by the independent crowd. For Obama to win, he needs to do one of two things. Win them back, or somehow energize his base so wildly, that ever Democrat votes.

Democrats today are dejected, so the later is not going to happen. For him to win back independents, he will need to look like the lesser of two evils.

If he can't convince the independents that the other guys is so bad you would want anyone before that guy, he has no shot.

by the way: I predicted Obama the winner, on this site, of 2008 before he won the primaries. I hated him as much then as I do now.

My prediction has nothing to do with how I feel about the man. It's just statistics.

you americans are stupid  you think obama could change your county in 2 years? what a bucnh of morrons also... obama hasnt done anything wrong against other countries...soo he's waaay better then any war monger ass like bush

what has he done different? we are still in the same two wars we were in. Is that any better than the same 2 wars Bush was in?

And he increased the effort in one of them.

Were people not paying attention?  He said he was going to.  You can ding Obama on Iraq, but he said he would step up efforts in Afghanistan during the campaign.  I guess people will see what they want to see, pro or con, like the woman who screamed that Obama getting elected would magically mean she would never have to worry about money problems ever again.