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M.U.G.E.N said:
darthdevidem01 said:
atma998 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
atma998 said:
yo_john117 said:
atma998 said:
kowenicki said:

 

 

darthdevidem01 said:

Can we safely say 50% marketshare aint ever happening for the Wii?

 

For Wii to achieve 50% market share needs to outsell 360 and PS3 combined by: 
             
1,002,179 p/m to achieve 50% by Jan 2011.   231,272 per wk.
294,759 p/m to achieve 50% by Jan 2012.   68,021 per wk.
172,790 p/m to achieve 50% by Jan 2013.   39,875 per wk.
125,272 p/m to achieve 50% by Jan 2014.   28,909 per wk.
             
Current rate is:  -288,930 per month on average for the last 12 mths.
    -392,184 per month on average for the last 6 mths.
    -445,440 per month on average for the last 3 mths.

 

Negative number means 360 & PS3 are still outselling Wii by that amount per month on average
             

zero chance.


Interesting...

Now can you do the same with X360 or PS3 to see how many units they have to move so they can reach 50% of marketshare? lol

But nobody ever said that the 360 or the PS3 could reach 50% marketshare.

Really? I'm sure they were tons of people predicting PS3 dominance back in 2005. Plus the only company that won't allow the Wii to reach 50% of marketshare is Nintendo himself because a) they didnt launch their big cannons in the firsts 3 years of the Wii's lifespan, b) the Wii was supply constrained during its first 3 years on the market and c) they will obviously launch the wii's successor sometime in the next two years.

Whatever, as far as I'm concerned Nintendo already own more than 50% of the current generation market, actually it is 60% (home consoles handheld) something that Sony has never been able to achieve, not even during the PS2 era.

If you expect people to still be butthurt over predicting PS3 dominance HALF A DECADE AGO then think again.


And if you expect people to be butthurt over predicting Wii eventually reaching 50% of marketshare back in the days when it easily outsold both X360 PS3 combined by quite a margin then think again.

See? It's easy like that but I still doesnt get your point..

Well I don't.

But people were still claiming Wii could reach 50% marketshare last december

People haven't been claiming PS3 would reach 50% marketshare for around 4 years now.

Thats why kowenicki did the comparison, and thats why kowenicki won't do a comparison to see how long it would take for PS3 or 360 to individually get to 50% marketshare.


Actually someone claimed wii still has a chance of getting 50% this thread

Someone... lol

I think there is also ''someone'' that predicted the end of the world for 2012, would you also feel the need to post the reasons why it won't happens?

@darth

Last december Wii was still outselling PS3 X360 combined so it was totally justified to think Wii would eventually reach 50%.



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atma998 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
darthdevidem01 said:
atma998 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
atma998 said:
yo_john117 said:
atma998 said:
kowenicki said:

 

 

darthdevidem01 said:

Can we safely say 50% marketshare aint ever happening for the Wii?

 

For Wii to achieve 50% market share needs to outsell 360 and PS3 combined by: 
             
1,002,179 p/m to achieve 50% by Jan 2011.   231,272 per wk.
294,759 p/m to achieve 50% by Jan 2012.   68,021 per wk.
172,790 p/m to achieve 50% by Jan 2013.   39,875 per wk.
125,272 p/m to achieve 50% by Jan 2014.   28,909 per wk.
             
Current rate is:  -288,930 per month on average for the last 12 mths.
    -392,184 per month on average for the last 6 mths.
    -445,440 per month on average for the last 3 mths.

 

Negative number means 360 & PS3 are still outselling Wii by that amount per month on average
             

zero chance.


Interesting...

Now can you do the same with X360 or PS3 to see how many units they have to move so they can reach 50% of marketshare? lol

But nobody ever said that the 360 or the PS3 could reach 50% marketshare.

Really? I'm sure they were tons of people predicting PS3 dominance back in 2005. Plus the only company that won't allow the Wii to reach 50% of marketshare is Nintendo himself because a) they didnt launch their big cannons in the firsts 3 years of the Wii's lifespan, b) the Wii was supply constrained during its first 3 years on the market and c) they will obviously launch the wii's successor sometime in the next two years.

Whatever, as far as I'm concerned Nintendo already own more than 50% of the current generation market, actually it is 60% (home consoles handheld) something that Sony has never been able to achieve, not even during the PS2 era.

If you expect people to still be butthurt over predicting PS3 dominance HALF A DECADE AGO then think again.


And if you expect people to be butthurt over predicting Wii eventually reaching 50% of marketshare back in the days when it easily outsold both X360 PS3 combined by quite a margin then think again.

See? It's easy like that but I still doesnt get your point..

Well I don't.

But people were still claiming Wii could reach 50% marketshare last december

People haven't been claiming PS3 would reach 50% marketshare for around 4 years now.

Thats why kowenicki did the comparison, and thats why kowenicki won't do a comparison to see how long it would take for PS3 or 360 to individually get to 50% marketshare.


Actually someone claimed wii still has a chance of getting 50% this thread

Someone... lol

I think there is also ''someone'' that predicted the end of the world for 2012, would you also feel the need to post the reasons why it won't happens?

@darth

Last december Wii was still outselling PS3 X360 combined so it was totally justified to think Wii would eventually reach 50%.

ugh you were saying talking about stuff from years ago is silly...so I just pointed out people say that even now...so someone should make up their mind before saying stuff..darth said what he said because he knows people STILL talk about it....so I predict someone is running their mouths but have no idea what they are going on about

for reference, read a few posts above yours, there is another 'someone' who said the same



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r3av3r2k1 said:
c0rd said:

Ouch, hurts seeing the Wii in third! Though it really is a mix of the HD consoles also doing much better than last year.

Seeing Starcraft 2, a PC game at the top of the charts makes it all better though! 


As for the Wii being doomed, I still don't necessarily think so. People looking at these weekly charts tend to really overreact over these weekly skirmishes, but I can't stress enough how this still tells us nothing about the longevity of the consoles. Hell, I'll (once again) point to the PS2 in the US, as NPD had it:

2001: (7.4m)
2002: 8.42m (15.8m) <- $100 May price cut ($200)
2003: 6.32m (22.2m) <- $20 May price cut ($180)
2004: 4.63m (26.8m) <- $30 May price cut ($150), Slim model Sept, shortages
2005: 5.44m (32.3m)
2006: 4.70m (37.1m) <- $20 April price cut ($130)
2007: 3.97m (41.1m) <- Slim 2
2008: 2.50m (43.6m) <- Slim 3
2009: 1.80m (44.4m) <- $30 April price cut ($99)

These forums would've constantly called doom on this console, as it was down on years with constant price cuts, yet it never quit selling (see: 2005-2007).

As long as the Wii can hold up well in the holiday period (when all its games hit), it'll be fine.

WII´S problem is not in america, over there it will sell great especially in the holidays, the big problem is EMEEA a territory that normally didn't sold many  nintendo consoles, this  console generation nintendo hardware  exploded here for 4 years but now its starting to slow very fast something i didn't expect so soon, given that the PS3 is still to expensive here

Oh, I agree with this. The Wii may have some major trouble in EMEAA if the holiday lineup doesn't improve, because if nostalgia games like NSMB Wii don't work well there, the major games this holiday - DKC, Kirby, Goldeneye, or NBA Jam probably won't either. I find it kind of strange, since the DS games (NSMB DS) were hits there, but I guess it doesn't carry over...

For the ones arguing above, I still think it's possible for the Wii to reach 50% (though increasingly unlikely, not impossible). It's tough to predict what will happen in the next 2-3 years, such as successors, continued support, or how quickly the consoles decline, all of which will factor heavily into the final totals. They're only 4-5 years old so far, you know?
(There, you have your crazy guy. Though not that crazy IMO...)



A little uplift for Sony and MS

Next holidays the Wii sales will be far above PS3 Xbox360.

 

The Wii even didn't have a significant price cut.



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It will be interesting to see 360 Arcade Slim sales next week.



Software sales YOY:

 

Week Ending
31st Jul 2010

Week Ending
01st Aug 2009
Difference YTD 2010 YTD 2009 Difference
Wii 1,822,821 3,088,516 -1,265,695 71,086,273 68,039,987 3,046,286
Xbox360 1,247,825 1,113,712 134,113 51,585,086 42,778,228 8,806,858
PS3 1,416,208 873,585 542,623 55,438,946 33,849,534 21,589,412
DS 1,507,495 1,650,246 -142,751 49,814,284 65,554,583 -15,740,299
PSP 704,865 443,027 261,838 16,599,120 15,065,786 1,533,334
PS2 184,587 410,396 -225,809 6,934,207 11,111,592 -4,177,385

2010 vs. 2009 software sales spreadsheet



Rhonin the wizard said:

Software sales YOY:

 

Week Ending
31st Jul 2010

Week Ending
01st Aug 2009
Difference YTD 2010 YTD 2009 Difference
Wii 1,822,821 3,088,516 -1,265,695 71,086,273 68,039,987 3,046,286
Xbox360 1,247,825 1,113,712 134,113 51,585,086 42,778,228 8,806,858
PS3 1,416,208 873,585 542,623 55,438,946 33,849,534 21,589,412
DS 1,507,495 1,650,246 -142,751 49,814,284 65,554,583 -15,740,299
PSP 704,865 443,027 261,838 16,599,120 15,065,786 1,533,334
PS2 184,587 410,396 -225,809 6,934,207 11,111,592 -4,177,385

2010 vs. 2009 software sales spreadsheet


WOW @ PS3!



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Alby_da_Wolf said:
r3av3r2k1 said:

[...]

Another question, who still thinks wii will catch ps2 lifetime sales ?

I still think that if Nintendo wants, if it does what is needed to support its sales long enough, it can do it. It won't reach 50% anyway, and unless it receives enough big boosts, the sales it will reach will be lower than we previously thought. With last winter sales, sales supported to make them drop slower than it actually happend, and long enough lifecycle, 150-160M would have been easy, 180M would have required more effort, but not too hard, and 200M very hard but not impossible, now, if nothing changes enough and fast, 150M will be possible, but not easy, 180M very hard, more than that very, very, very hard.

I don't think wii can reach ps2 anymore because there's little Nintendo can do now to spur sales again, its only wild card left is the vitality sensor, and that i think, will probably be an idea that is only going to be fully implemented with wii´s successor

And that, is going to be wii´s biggest treat in the years to follow, its successor, because there  wont be a relation similar to PS2 and PS3 were one is way overpriced for the general public and the other is affordable, since that has never been Nintendo´s way of doing business, the wii successor will almost certainly be quite afordablee from the get go, thus nulifiing one of the major advantages wii would have over its younger brother. And with a new console out, Nintendo will focus all its efforts to make sure it has great games from the get go, and that way abandoning support for the Wii , and with no Nintendo games, and no 3party support wii will go down hill really fast



r3av3r2k1 said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
r3av3r2k1 said:

[...]

Another question, who still thinks wii will catch ps2 lifetime sales ?

I still think that if Nintendo wants, if it does what is needed to support its sales long enough, it can do it. It won't reach 50% anyway, and unless it receives enough big boosts, the sales it will reach will be lower than we previously thought. With last winter sales, sales supported to make them drop slower than it actually happend, and long enough lifecycle, 150-160M would have been easy, 180M would have required more effort, but not too hard, and 200M very hard but not impossible, now, if nothing changes enough and fast, 150M will be possible, but not easy, 180M very hard, more than that very, very, very hard.

I don't think wii can reach ps2 anymore because there's little Nintendo can do now to spur sales again, its only wild card left is the vitality sensor, and that i think, will probably be an idea that is only going to be fully implemented with wii´s successor

And that, is going to be wii´s biggest treat in the years to follow, its successor, because there  wont be a relation similar to PS2 and PS3 were one is way overpriced for the general public and the other is affordable, since that has never been Nintendo´s way of doing business, the wii successor will almost certainly be quite afordablee from the get go, thus nulifiing one of the major advantages wii would have over its younger brother. And with a new console out, Nintendo will focus all its efforts to make sure it has great games from the get go, and that way abandoning support for the Wii , and with no Nintendo games, and no 3party support wii will go down hill really fast

Nintendo has less big moves left, true, and I agree that Vitality could be disappointing, but with at least two price cuts available, possibly bundling Balance Board too during the last years, and an even modest boost given by VS, a 8 years lifecycle, with its last 2 years after Wii2 release (most likely to happen in 2012 according to many), is possible, if only Nintendo wants it. Do your maths, with 4 more years after next Xmas 150M is within Wii's reach. Easily, though, doesn't mean without doing anything, sales numbers won't fall from sky without Nintendo doing anything, easily means that to reach this goal Nintendo has moves available but it must be willing to play them. For sales even higher, though, a total commitment and the hardest work by Nintendo would be needed, and here applies what you say, so I agree with you that having to concentrate its efforts on the new HW, better results than 150-160M would be from very hard to nearly impossible. 



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