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I dunno why anyone thinks 360 will be more than about 15% up YoY once the initial boost dies down and the quasi price cut of clearance stock runs out. Realistically a redesigned unit without an associated price cut can't sustain major YoY sales increases for anything but a short period. Staggering the releases of Arcade and Elite will prolong the boost, but in EMEAA at least expect the 360 to reach it's low point of about 55K the week before Arcade launch, and then probably a further similar low point the week Move launches. Not because Move is launching, but because the Arcade boost will probably have worn off by that week, and the upward trend of sales leading to the end of the year won't quite have started; will probably start the following week, though if Kinect is as anticipated as people claim, 360's end of year upward trend will be dampened a little until Kinect launches. I think a 60-65K average for Aug to Oct is what I expect. Though the Arcade spike might lift that average somewhat.

If 360 falls to about 80K in the next chart (~34% drop) then it's pretty much on track for that 65K average. If it drops to 90-100K then the average will be significantly higher. Next week is really the bellwether week for 360's fortunes in EMEAA.

People predicting a fall all the way back to a 50K average are merely wishful thinkers (and aren't really considering the sales pattern we are heading in to over the next 3 months), as are people who think 80K will be the floor leading up to Kinect launch.

And what's with the PS3 is selling bad talk from a certain segment of the community? Nearly 1 year on and it's still selling at 11% up YoY. By comparison when 360 cut it's price in 2008 by this time in 2009 it was down YoY by about 2% (and probably running rather flat on average). And don't forget Wii had its $50 price cut late last year and it's now 30% down YoY. 11% up YoY in the face of a major HW boost for the 360 clearance sale and slim launch is a sales level Sony will be pretty pleased with I'd say.



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darn, these numbers doesnt look favorable to wii

 

360 dominates

ps3 getting closer

 

maybe the guy who made the prediction might be right



WilliamWatts said:
Dand said:

Like trestres said, the Wii could last 2 more years, but only if it had support and it doesn't, this is not a Wii is doomed post, i am not saying that.It is just that the Wii will live a natural 5 year life cicle.

I think the best strategy for nintendo is launch a console more powerful than PS3 at a 400$ price range and do the third parties make games as they are with 3DS. I think price is not a problem and nintendo knows that, because people got the Wii for 500 or 600 dollars on ebay for months after launch.


The Wii will definately last more than two more years, it has enough consoles sold for that. Remember its sold 70M which is only behind the PS1 and PS2 at this point in time. Further to that, if and when they release a new console it'll probably not be over $249 and definately not over $299 and it will be more powerful than the PS3, that much is certain at this point given a minimum release date of 2011.

What I was trying to say was that it wouldn't last two more years as the leading console(weekly sales).

I am sure it will continue selling well after two years, but not enough to be the leading console(weekly sales).

And if we align the consoles at launch the Wii is selling better than PS2, but it doesn't have the software support to continue selling after its successor launch like the PS2 had.

But its just my opinion, i can be wrong, and i would like to be wrong.



binary solo said:

I dunno why anyone thinks 360 will be more than about 15% up YoY once the initial boost dies down and the quasi price cut of clearance stock runs out. Realistically a redesigned unit without an associated price cut can't sustain major YoY sales increases for anything but a short period.


I think they are believing that the redesign will put the Xbox 360 up 15% YOY by Christmas and Kinect will push the Xbox 360 higher still. I don't think theres anyone who is suggesting that the redesign alone will do more than that. I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking that, from what I recall the Xbox 360 had a relatively weak Christmas last year so besting that is within the realm of possibility.



360 should be at 50M at the end of the year... Kinect will help that!



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Dand said:
WilliamWatts said:


The Wii will definately last more than two more years, it has enough consoles sold for that. Remember its sold 70M which is only behind the PS1 and PS2 at this point in time. Further to that, if and when they release a new console it'll probably not be over $249 and definately not over $299 and it will be more powerful than the PS3, that much is certain at this point given a minimum release date of 2011.

What I was trying to say was that it wouldn't last two more years as the leading console(weekly sales).

I am sure it will continue selling well after two years, but not enough to be the leading console(weekly sales).

And if we align the consoles at launch the Wii is selling better than PS2, but it doesn't have the software support to continue selling after its successor launch like the PS2 had.

But its just my opinion, i can be wrong, and i would like to be wrong.

The other two consoles will decline alongside them as well. The generation is reaching saturation at this point, the software sales overall are falling so all consoles ought to fall soon after if you go by what The Source has said in his market analysis pieces. I don't believe the Wii has done selling just yet, its just that given the market it sells to IMO its probably suffering from the recession the most as the wider market has cut back on discretionary spending.



BHR-3 said:

woo hoo at that 360 drop

man i was shaking in my pants for these numbers 360 could of been in the 180-220k range for these numbers last week was only like 1-2 days of sales for the 360S

looks like last week was just alot of people anxious to be the 1st to get the new model 

waiting for the break down by region PS3 was able to do 110-120k in all of EU excluding the UK after its slim release want to see what 360 has done in the other regions

EDIT: This post has been moderated. -d1

Sold out is the issue. Not enough supply for the demand. 360s is still sod out here only a day after stocks replenish. 

Should stay above 100k for weeks if M$ keep the supply going.



So I'm wondering now if next week the numbers are still in the 100K range what will people have to say then. I mean when the 360 does bad everyone points it out, and when it does good everyone finds something bad to focus on. I seriously feel if the 360 was ever able to explode in sales and outsell the Wii for 1st place this gen it would still be seen as something bad.



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akuseru said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

So much ganging up and double standards in this thread :S it'z almost bizarre..then again, nothing I wouldn't expect from such individuals either


quoted for truth. the 360 boys in this thread are like children. BHR meltdown, wtf is that? i never saw any meltdown. all i saw was some obnoxious 360 boy on his high horse spouting crap and arguing like some little child, pathetic. five people present in this thread are so full of double standards that their opinions are nothing but worthless trash. however, they see themselves as the high and mighty ones around here. every time I read one of their posts, it reeks of an "I'm better than you" attitude. it's quite humorous, but actually more sad...


Oh the irony...



Too much projecting of fanboy wishes and desires in this thread.  Shoot, it happens in a number of threads regarding sales and sales forecasts.  It is really too early to say what the future will hold.  I say wait a month or two before tooting of one's horn regarding sales numbers.