If you dont have your papers of ID you get put into a holding cell, someone can bring your ID to show whether youre "legal" or not. 

People are flipping out because of the link i showed. Its expensive to deport people, this doesnt actual help anything logically. Unless you in your heart of hearts believe over 50% of this countries crime comes from people here illegally.

The real reform needs to be getting these people registered quickly and easily so they can start paying taxes. 

This arizona stuff has already gone on in Virginia and it DESTROYED a county, when we are talking about this on a state level its even bigger because youll have boycotts, migration out of the state, displacement, innocent children getting ripped from families.....the reform needs to come from figuring out how to register people not how to deport them.

yea, seems like there is alot of misinformation out there. You have to be stopped for doing something illegal already, they can not jut stop you based on looks or at random. And I believe the big fuss comes over the fact that the feds feel states do not have the right to perform immigration p[olicy, and it should be left to the feds(boarder patrol) who are told by their superiers to basically not do their job, and not deport illegals. I personaly believe it is time for states to take some rights back, not only in immigration but elseware also. But that is for another discussion. I fully support this law, and I hope every city, and county in CA enacts their own version. I belive 5 or more have already.

Idk about 50%, but I do believe some of most societal dangerous crimes are committed by people here illegally. Human and drug trafficking, etc. And I believe that it's pretty bad that if someone is here illegally and they commit a crime, that it's really hard to find them because they're not recorded, their prints aren't recorded; much less their DNA.  Last year I saw a story on a man who was killed buy a drunk driver in my state. the pickup that killed him was allegedly owned by an illegal immigrant, was not registered, and the guy just ran.

Also, illegal immigration allows lots of gang activity in general to increase. MS13 is considered one of the biggest gangs in the world, and it was started by illegal immigrants from El Salvador within the states.

We already DID that about 20 or so years ago, we alllowed amnesty to all illegals within the country htat were here 5 years or more. We can't just keep letting everybody in every 20 years just because they're closer.

If we illegally go into mexico do you think they would ask you for papers and then deport you,  hell no, you will be imprisoned and most likely beaten, America is the most relaxed country on boarder policy its stupid. Here take a look at this

http://michellemalkin.com/2010/04/28/police-state-how-mexico-treats-illegal-aliens/

in my oppinion what arizona is doing is putting its citezens first, if i get asked for an id to buy a beer then why shouldnt they get asked for an id to be in the country.

Agreed on much of that. Cartels, human trafficking etc. all stem form lack of border control. However, I dont see how this really combats those issues. Sure i guess its like cutting off an entire arm to fix a broken hand. 

People have a problem because this law is nothign more than wool over peoples eyes and creates a divider and limits intelligent dialogue on the issue. The state has no right or authority to deport people, the provision only allows them to apprehend and jail the accused. The provision also allows the states citizens to actually sue officers or officials if they feel the officers arent doing ENOUGH to appreheand "illegals" 

Crime was at an all time low in 2008 when there were over 500,000 "illegal" immigrants in arizona, its not a safety issue its a talking point for election, and its being awfully cavalier with many peoples families and lives. 

As i said before, the emphasis is being placed on the wrong sector. The time and money would be much better spent allowing "illegals" to register quickly and easier rather prosecute them.

The thing that baffles me is this has already happened in Virginia and it was devastating in so many ways to the community and now Arizona wants to do it on a larger scale. Its absurd, the consequences are vastly larger than most people are discussing, socially and economically.

Some might call that more humane rather than relaxed. But to each his own.

I am amazed that we get angy with other countries for not securing their boarders, but we won't secure our own? It truly baffles me. but i believe this is the root of the problem.

We should insist that if the immigrant who comes here does in good faith become an

American and assimilates himself to us he shall be treated on an exact equality with every one else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed or birth-place or origin.

But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American and nothing but an American. If he tries to keep segregated with men of his own origin and separated from the rest of America, then he isn't doing his part as an American. There can be no divided allegiance here. . . We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns our people out as Americans, of American nationality, and not as dwellers in a polyglot boarding-house; and we have room for but one soul loyalty, and that is loyalty to the American people.

Roosevelt

roblem. People who come to the united states should be coming here to embrace our way of life and to become americans. I don't consider myself German American because my mother is a german immigrant, nor does she consider herself German. We consider ourselves American because we embrace this country. When they want to be americans I think americans will have less problems with them. If they still want to be mexican citizens and continue to embrace what mexico has become (corrupt and crime ridden) then perhaps they should just live in mexico and take their problems their. When they are ready to become americans there is a process in place already, follow it.

We dont apply the same theories in science from hundreds of years ago. I dont see how social/global views can stay set in stone.

1. Sure we do

2. Since when is Roosevelt hundreds of years old?

US law requires none citizens to carry immigration papers with them at all time. Thus, if they don't have ID when pulled over then under the Federal Law they risk deportation and Visa revocation. Then consider that someone pulled over doesn't speak any English major red flag considering it is required for legal migration.  This law makes sense, sure there will be some ass hole cops who abuse the law but that is the case for every law. 

Scotland requires 6 months worth of living expenses before you can get a VISA and immigrants are not eligible for welfare. Maybe the US should follow that model, illegal immigrants having legal children are allowed to stay and qualify for welfare in the US. So these immigrants now qualify for cash and food support combined with whatever income the father makes gee no wonder Arizona wants to discourage people from milking their system. 

Here is a nice rule change illegal immigrants cannot give birth to legal citizens. If your child is born in the United States while you are here illegally then you must qualify for citizenship before your children can be granted citizenship. The rest of the world who wants to immigrate to the US must do so legally therefore people from Mexico and South America should as well.