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Just as cOrd said, Wii sales are not bad at all. Practically they're selling  with old software, New Super Mario, Wii Fit, Wii Sports etc. That's pretty incredible. Once they release another system seller things will change. Remember last year was the same situation and still during Christmas sold more than 3 million in America alone.

The Wii doesn't need a price cut, they just need more software.



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The key thing to look at is the software sales, in which Wii is still leading, not to mention still beating PS3 in both software and hardware. It only got beat by 360 in hardware, but this is to be expected, since MS just released their redesign that gives you far more value for your buck. And yet people are acting like Wii is selling like the PSP.. 

Like the PS3, many of these 360 s buyers are already existing 360 owners who just want to upgrade, which shows in the lack of jump in software sales.



Nintendo will not be able to go back to the old numbers, mainly because Wii is already 4 years old and they are already shifting resources to the 3DS and their new home console (They need to have SW ready, and they can't trust 3rd party devs). They can't do it on their own and since 3rd party devs already decided long ago that Wii was not worth their best efforts, Wii will continue to go down in sales. I'm expecting a new home console by Holiday's 2011 in Japan, with the West getting it before Q1 2012 ends.



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The YoY numbers are instructive. The Wii isn't especially weak right now, it's just that the 360 is remarkably strong and the PS3 ain't no slouch either. Since I suspect Nintendo cares more about absolute sales than relative sales (marketshare) I don't expect them to go out of their way to respond. What's more, they need to focus on the 3DS's big debut rather than fret about fighting the Wii's market saturation.

I really didn't expect the 360 redesign to draw this much attention. It just didn't seem as significant as the PS3's last redesign. I guess the 360 crowd gets really eager to buy the latest hardware, even if it doesn't do much more than the old.



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Why is everyone (or maybe it's just the nintendo fans) downplaying/rejecting the idea of a wii price cut does it somehow benefit you to have the wii remain at $200 dollars.... I personally do not own a wii however as a former nintendo console owner I have interest in the wii  (I love me some Donkey Kong >.<) however I also know for a fact I will never buy one at its current price point and I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. If it was droped to $150 there is a very high chance of me picking one up this fall when donkey kong is released.

As far as the new 360's sales go give it time...it just came out of course it's gonna be selling good did any one honestly expect it not to? wait a month and see where it settles at, that'll tell you how good of a boost it gave to sales.



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Excellent 360 sales. Will be interesting to see where it settles.

Wii is down a lot, despite having a pricecut and it's biggest game within the year...

PS3 up 30%, very good for sales. Will be interesting to see what Sony can do for it to try match last years sales.



                            

Seece said:

A wii price cut would be ... desperate?

Not even 360 and PS3 have cut prices 2 years in a row (AFAIK)

PS3 has averaged $75 price cut per year. But they had to do that for mere survival of the brand.



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Well, I don't think that all the spike is re-purchases but I do think that the 360s is seeing a greater ratio of re-buys at the moment vs say the PS3 Slim when it launched.

It's hard to be sure, though.  I know SW hasn't spiked, which you'd expect at least a bit if hundreds of thousands of new owners suddenly appeared, but then they could have spent their money getting the console and have little left over for games (although you'd at least expect the 360 gold standard titles to see a modest bump I suppose).  Or the new owners could be rushing to buy the core titles second hand and therefore not registering on the SW charts.

I suppose all we can say is that HW wise it's been great for 360 but so far but the success hasn't translated directly at this point to the game developers, too.

I think a fair few are new owners, however, as the new spec/look is good and I've always felt the specter of RROD has held back some who I would imagine have finally "jumped in".


How do we know? From what I remember much of the software sales listed are simply based off regression and various other statistical tools from Brett. If he hasn't updated his statistics program then the software sales will carry on as far as we are concerned as if nothing has happened. You're basing this on software totals which may or may not be accurate. The safest thing to do is to say nothing and think nothing of it until you're certain that the software sales presented on a weekly basis are representative. I don't think you could say with even a reasonable margin of error that the software sales truly relfect what the change in the market is, especially when that change would be riding in the typical 15% or so margin of error.



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Really, the only problematic region is Others. I'm not sure how they'll spark interest there, because if an old school 2D Mario can't do the trick, there's no way Donkey Kong, Goldeneye or Kirby would. That Vitality Sensor game needs to be their savior there.

NSMB is a title which throws back to the days of the NES with Mario setting the world in flames. However Mario never sold that well in Europe comparatively so it simply doesn't have the population of gamers who remember the name fondly. The same applies to Donkey Kong and Kirby most likely, also Epic Mickey will probably be better but I don't think Mickey was ever as popular in Europe as in the United States.



binary solo said:
Seece said:

A wii price cut would be ... desperate?

Not even 360 and PS3 have cut prices 2 years in a row (AFAIK)

PS3 has averaged $75 price cut per year. But they had to do that for mere survival of the brand.


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