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Astrodust said:
@misterd
You kind of have a bad attitude. Anyways there is no need to get upset over the Mayan predictions because they can be interpreted in more than one way. Are you denying the 4 points I made in the opening post? All I am saying is that 2012 is a significant year. Read it again. The Mayans believed in a transition period in 2012. For some people this is enough and will provide a catalyst to change for the better. Like the person on the mountaintop that stares out and better understands himself. If 2012 is the end of the world that is okay too cause maybe we were not meant to live forever. At least living in a way that hurts one another so much.

If they can be "interpreted in more than one way" then their not really predictions, just more nostradamus like bull**it. And no, your not arguing with a scientific basis. Your doing the same thing creationists do, cherry picking a few bits of science to support your pre concieved belief.

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sieanr said:
 

Wasnt there a guy called Notradamus - the guy predicted WW1 & 2, 9/11 and The Great London Fire. Didnt he predict this aswell??


I remember studying him in schools years ago.

He made all sorts of incredibly vague predictions, many of which are nothing more than nonsense. 

But don't let that stop you from believing all this hogwash. Just keep in mind that people thought the year 1000 would be the end of the world... or the year 2000. 

Oh, and most of the people posting in this thread don't know jack about basic science, wether it be how an asteroid impact would effect earth or quasars and the like. 


Well most of the vague predictions he made came true.I thought id go read up on him quickly and so i went to wiki for some info.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostradamus - Not that this is a credible link and that wiki tells the truth.

Dont get me wrong I dont believe prohecies and mumbo jumbo.... but i somehow become interested in them, and i find ancient history interesting.



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Astrodust said:
NJ5 said:
dtewi said:
Someone create a good counter arguement.

I don't wanna die.

A counter argument for speculation? Good luck with that, it's almost as hard as finding a counter argument for fanboyism.

 


Which one of my original 4 points were speculation? They are all going to or are in the process of happening. Do any of these spell doom? That is up to you. Recycle now. Save the Earth!


I was not talking about your 4 points, but about the speculation about the apocalypse and so. I thought it was obvious because I was replying to someone who was worried about dying on that day ;)

 



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Don't worry, Mario will save teh GALAXIEZ!

Seriously: Just a stupid belief. Anyone see "The Omen"? THAT is how the world will end.

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Astrodust said:

By now some of you may have heard of the famous Mayan prediction. The Mayans were mathematical geniuses and were ancient time keepers. They had many calendars and could predict astrological changes many years in advance. One of their calendars is actually more accurate than the Gregorian calendar we use today. It is their long count calendar that is the most intriguing.

The Mayan long calendar ends on Dec 21st 2012. The Mayans fortold that on that day which is a winter solstice, the Earth would enter into a new age. The transition into the 5th sun/dimension, a cosmic crossing will occur. Some people claimed that the Mayans predicted our own end. Others say the Mayans believed people would enter into a new conciousness. Perhaps that day is just another day but there is no denying it will still be a significant day. Lets examine that day and year a little.

1. On Dec 21st 2012 the Earths sun forms a meridian with the galactic equator. What does that mean exactly? Well our sun and consequently the Earth are at the equator of the Milky Way. This will be the first time in about 26,000 years. We are living in a special time. You get to experience something that many generations after you will never experience.

Well, even if it's an awsome thing, I don't think we will experience any kind of side effects. The galactic equator doesn't compare with the earth equator, since it won't involve more heat provided to the earth. You all know that outer space has a really low average temperature (around 10°K or -260°C) and that won't change with the earth being at the Milky Way's equator as the other stars won't come near us.

2. Solar Max will peak in 2012. Nasa predicts that solar storms will peak in 2012 and be at their strongest in 50 years. Solar storms refers to when the sun releases large amounts of energy. The things affected will include cell phones, gps, and other electronic equipment. Low orbiting satelites are expected to be affected as well as flying passengers. The last time solar storms were this intense, northern lights were spotted over Mexico. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/03/0306_060307_sunspots.html


These effects are pretty common. The Sun always has some violent eruptions caused by the transformations of Hydrogen in Helium trough the nuclear fusions that take place in the nucleus. Yes they can make pretty bad things to what is in the outer space that is not properly shielded. But that doesn't concern us directly as forms of life. Instead they will be potentially harmful if our Ozone layer isn't thick enough or has holes in it.
Which leads me to the next point

3. Pole reversals are imminent. Did you know the magnetic poles of the sun reverse. It happens at the peak of every 11 year sunspot cycle. The last one was in 2001 and the next one is in 2012. Scientists also know that the Earth's poles reverse as well. Earth's poles reverse an average of 4 times every 1 million years. The last one occured about 740,000 years ago so we are overdue. A prelude to Earth's poles reversing is that our planet's magnetic field decreases significantly and we are at our lowest levels in years. No one knows how long it takes for the poles to flip but if it is quick, earthquakes and other natural disasters are a certainty. And your compass needle will be pointing in the opposite direction. When the sun's poles reverse in 2012 there is a tendancy to pull the Earth along with it.

If this polar reversal will take place in these years could potentially mess up the way our atmosphere behave. It might lead us to nothing or even to something really disastrous, as not being able to retain the farther stratuses of the atmosphere. That combined with the solar activity at it's peak would surely end up in a partial or total extinction of all the life beings on this earth, as the earth will suffer from overheating, powerful and deadly UV rays (those will be deadly even for the small bacteria that surrounds us all) and a huge temperature excursions from night to day.
You are right about the natural disasters, especially earthquakes. Simply put our earth poles (magnetic poles, not geographic ones) are made by the fluid materials that revolve (thus creating a spin momentum) around the nucleus (which is solid and made of iron), just under the earth's crust, creating a magnetic field.

If that change lots of animals that migrate might lose their direction or get crazy.

4. The Dark Rift which the Mayans called the Black Road lies along the galactic equator. In 2012 astronomers say that our sun enters this dark part of our galaxy. Astronomers refer to this as the Cygnus Rift, a portion of intersteller dust. The Mayans defined the end of each age as the world sitting on the Dark Rift. But they also considered this intersection to be the Sacred Tree or Cross, and on Dec 21st 2012 we will witness an ascension. No one really knows what will happen when we pass through the Dark Rift though.

Again, interstellar dust, as long as our atmosphere is in it's nothing will occur to us.

So what do you guys think of all this? Is all this just another Y2K scare or is our Galaxy trying to tell us something?

Universe is full of mysteries, some will be solved pretty quickly others won't ever see a solution. Interstellar trips, right now, are mere illusions. We won't be able to go away from this planet any time soon, maybe never. What we can do however is try to keep our planet in good health! But even then, one day, far far away from now, we know it will end up being destroyed (as well as half of the solar system) by the sun itself.

Everything as a beginning and an end. Nothing is created nor destroyed but everything is transformed.

Those are the principles that govern everything in the univers.

 


 



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Earth ends in 2012? Bummer for the person who gets elected President of the US that year...won't even get to serve a single day in office. And can you hear the wailing of the losing party? "Waaaaaa, we told you not to elect a republican/democrat"



Astrodust said:
superchunk said:
No its a galaxy. If you notice there is no sun/star. The planets are oversized and pulled from solar systems in each galaxy.

O_o You do know a galaxy is made up of billions of stars right?


 Its a cartoonish drawin, where one planet in that galaxy is oversided greatly or zoomed in on. Cmon man use your imagination it a game!!



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Okay A) Why is this post on a games site?

B) The fundimental problem with this entire thread is that you're looking for things that are happening on 2012 to support the Mayan claim that something will happen. Yes, new strange stuff will happen on 2012. But guess what? New strange stuff happens all the fricking time!!

I remember people worrying about the planets coming into alinement and if that would tear the world apart or rip the atmosphere away. It did notta.

I remember people had lists of dozens, hundreds even of 'scientific' or religious circumstances pointing to the year 2000 being an end or turning point for humanity. From ancient prophesies to modern science. Then the ridiculous media overblowing of the Y2K thing. 2000 came and went. Notta.

2012 will come, those thing may happen, life will go on, as it has in the past for hundreads of millions of years. As for ascention. Heck I'm doing that now, why wait for 2012 for it to become fashionable?