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Forums - Sales - Playstation 2 in 2nd place This Gen!

jarrod on 21 July 2010
STEKSTAV said:

So, this is not a PS2 vs HD thread. Its a PS2 vs Next Gen definition-thread.


So... where's PS2 vs Wii then?



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Mummelmann on 21 July 2010

So, people have been crying about the Wii being classified as last gen all generation but now that its suitable it suddenly is last gen? For an enhanced humiliation experience?



Jay520 on 21 July 2010
FlyingLotus said:

Cool.So this means  PS3 is in 4th place.


Yeah, but you gotta look at the big picture. PS3 may be in 4th, but Playstation is in 1st this generation. PS3 sales and PS2 sakes combined equal about 81mil and growing. : )

GO PLAYSTATION!



Hyruken on 21 July 2010
joeorc said:
STEKSTAV said:
Hyruken said:



I still don't think your getting it and i don't know how i can make it any simpler...

But okay one last try.

If your COMPARING PS2 sales to 360 sales YOU HAVE to have an equal/fair starting point of which to compare them.

But your whole point of view is that these numbers is ment to compare two products and who's more successful, which it's not at all.

These numbers shows how many PS2 units have been sold since the start of "next gen". Most people can agree on that the start of next gen was when the 360 was launched. The 360 and PS3 numbers are just there to show you that the PS2 in comparison has sold an equal amount of units since the start of this gen, a gen that it can't be apart of despite having kept on selling for 5 years into this gen.

So, this is not a PS2 vs HD thread. Its a PS2 vs Next Gen definition-thread.

Thank you..it's not hard to see that point.. does not matter? In my opinion not at all..lol

but it does Show world wide the PS2's sales and How those sales have continued due to not only Release, pricepoint, but game archive. the PS2 was an still is a very good system.

 



It's like i am banging my head against a wall!

The point is to not see how succesful something is.....It is not bashing the PS2, not even sticking up for 360...The point is he said that PS2 had outsold 360 since 360 had released. That is not correct. That is the point. If you use the first day the 360 was released in americas and base total numbers from that date then of course he is right. But as i have tried countless times to explain to you that would be counting total ps2 numbers in the whole world versus 1 regions numbers. It is no contest, it is not a comparison. You can't compare sales like that. I mean really is it that complicated? I work for an analysis company. If my boss told me to compare product A's sales with product B's sales i would have to compare them from the same starting position. Other wise you can use the data to manipulate it into saying whatever you wanted. have to compare apples with apples as the old saying goes.



MrT-Tar on 21 July 2010
Jay520 said:
FlyingLotus said:

Cool.So this means  PS3 is in 4th place.


Yeah, but you gotta look at the big picture. PS3 may be in 4th, but Playstation is in 1st this generation. PS3 sales and PS2 sakes combined equal about 81mil and growing. : )

GO PLAYSTATION!


?

72.6m Wii plus 131.9 DS = 204.5m

81.1m PS2 plus  36m PS3 plus  59m PSP = 176.1m

and that's not even counting the 21m (I think) GBAs Nintendo sold since the DS launched




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Jay520 on 21 July 2010
MrT-Tar said:
Jay520 said:
FlyingLotus said:

Cool.So this means  PS3 is in 4th place.


Yeah, but you gotta look at the big picture. PS3 may be in 4th, but Playstation is in 1st this generation. PS3 sales and PS2 sakes combined equal about 81mil and growing. : )

GO PLAYSTATION!


?

72.6m Wii plus 131.9 DS = 204.5m

81.1m PS2 plus  36m PS3 plus  59m PSP = 176.1m

and that's not even counting the 21m (I think) GBAs Nintendo sold since the DS launched

I was referring strictly to home consoles.



MrT-Tar on 21 July 2010
Jay520 said:
MrT-Tar said:
Jay520 said:
FlyingLotus said:

Cool.So this means  PS3 is in 4th place.


Yeah, but you gotta look at the big picture. PS3 may be in 4th, but Playstation is in 1st this generation. PS3 sales and PS2 sakes combined equal about 81mil and growing. : )

GO PLAYSTATION!


?

72.6m Wii plus 131.9 DS = 204.5m

81.1m PS2 plus  36m PS3 plus  59m PSP = 176.1m

and that's not even counting the 21m (I think) GBAs Nintendo sold since the DS launched

I was referring strictly to home consoles.

ahh OK




joeorc on 21 July 2010
Hyruken said:
joeorc said:
STEKSTAV said:
Hyruken said:



I still don't think your getting it and i don't know how i can make it any simpler...

But okay one last try.

If your COMPARING PS2 sales to 360 sales YOU HAVE to have an equal/fair starting point of which to compare them.

But your whole point of view is that these numbers is ment to compare two products and who's more successful, which it's not at all.

These numbers shows how many PS2 units have been sold since the start of "next gen". Most people can agree on that the start of next gen was when the 360 was launched. The 360 and PS3 numbers are just there to show you that the PS2 in comparison has sold an equal amount of units since the start of this gen, a gen that it can't be apart of despite having kept on selling for 5 years into this gen.

So, this is not a PS2 vs HD thread. Its a PS2 vs Next Gen definition-thread.

Thank you..it's not hard to see that point.. does not matter? In my opinion not at all..lol

but it does Show world wide the PS2's sales and How those sales have continued due to not only Release, pricepoint, but game archive. the PS2 was an still is a very good system.

 



It's like i am banging my head against a wall!

The point is to not see how succesful something is.....It is not bashing the PS2, not even sticking up for 360...The point is he said that PS2 had outsold 360 since 360 had released. That is not correct. That is the point. If you use the first day the 360 was released in americas and base total numbers from that date then of course he is right. But as i have tried countless times to explain to you that would be counting total ps2 numbers in the whole world versus 1 regions numbers. It is no contest, it is not a comparison. You can't compare sales like that. I mean really is it that complicated? I work for an analysis company. If my boss told me to compare product A's sales with product B's sales i would have to compare them from the same starting position. Other wise you can use the data to manipulate it into saying whatever you wanted. have to compare apples with apples as the old saying goes.

which is what your doing right now..just because one system is released in more areas does not negate the sales data, which is what your doing.

while i respect you , i do not happen to agree with the IDEA just because a system is not released in another area that you discount it's sales in those region's . for instance if sy that the xbox360 does get released say 9 month's after another system released into that region do you not count the 9 month's before the xbox360 was released?

if so does that mean that both the ps3 and Nintendo could ignore the sales data for Microsoft prior to the release of the PS3 and the Wii in the areas that the xbox360 was released into before they were released?

that exactly what your claiming to do here an that's just wrong.



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sexc_abbas on 21 July 2010

are you actualy comparing the 2 ???? this is the most retarted thread i have ever seen (console sales wise) aint it going to be obvisous that the 360 was going to beat the ps3 "even though the ps2 has beet the 360" ??? it was a next gen console



Badassbab on 21 July 2010

It's amazing it's sold the most since the start of this gen.