By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - General - Argentina Legalizes Gay Marriage and Adoption, 1st country in Latin America

Great to hear there are more advanced nations out there that aren't slowed down by pathetic, antiquated, and obsolete ideas.

That said, I am fine with rights for gays, but I hate it when they try to pass themselves off as "normal." When the human race becomes asexual and you don't need a male and a female for new humans to be made then they can start off with the whole "normal" argument. Until then, I am sorry, but it is not normal.



Around the Network
mirgro said:

Great to hear there are more advanced nations out there that aren't slowed down by pathetic, antiquated, and obsolete ideas.

That said, I am fine with rights for gays, but I hate it when they try to pass themselves off as "normal." When the human race becomes asexual and you don't need a male and a female for new humans to be made then they can start off with the whole "normal" argument. Until then, I am sorry, but it is not normal.

Having sex for pleasure is not normal since it doesn't create new humans.

I mean, according to you, that's true, right?



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

dtewi said:
Slimebeast said:

It's indeed helping the organism to survive. You put a repulsion there and voilá, you won't have sexually aggressive males wasting time on courting other males who won't give them offspring anyway.


That's a stretch if I ever saw one.

This, of course, also needs the idea that sexuality isn't genetic. If heterosexual males (and let's say they're born with that orientation) didn't need to worry about being in love with other males, why would they need the repulsion if they would still procreate without it?

Although, if you say they're not born that way, my point is moot.

It may sound like a stretch, but simply think like this:

If there wasn't a repulsion, many horny males (and there's lots of them, and the reason is that it's an advantage to spread your seed to as many females as possible) would start to have sex with each other instead of hunting difficult chicks. And we can't have that because it's very important for our species survival that the majority of males are interested in chicks.

See you have this classical imbalance between the genders and their craving for sex. Chicks are by nature hard to get, for their own reasons (programmed to carefully select the right partner, thus hey don't want to fcuk around as much as men want in fear of getting pregnant with the wrong partner. This is the biological explanation).


* When I say "we can't have that" I'm talking from an evolutionary perspective obviously, it's not morals, not our modern society or my own opinion.



Slimebeast said:

It may sound like a stretch, but simply think like this:

If there wasn't a repulsion, many horny males (and there's lots of them, and the reason is that it's an advantage to spread your seed to as many females as possible) would start to have sex with each other instead of hunting difficult chicks. And we can't have that because it's very important for our species survival that the majority of males are interested in chicks.

See you have this classical imbalance between the genders and their craving for sex. Chicks are by nature hard to get, for their own reasons (programmed to carefully select the right partner, thus hey don't want to fcuk around as much as men want in fear of getting pregnant with the wrong partner. This is the biological explanation).

Here's the thing:

Heterosexual men don't want to fuck each other.

Not out of repulsion, but because they sorta can't get horny.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

dtewi said:
mirgro said:

Great to hear there are more advanced nations out there that aren't slowed down by pathetic, antiquated, and obsolete ideas.

That said, I am fine with rights for gays, but I hate it when they try to pass themselves off as "normal." When the human race becomes asexual and you don't need a male and a female for new humans to be made then they can start off with the whole "normal" argument. Until then, I am sorry, but it is not normal.

Having sex for pleasure is not normal since it doesn't create new humans.

I mean, according to you, that's true, right?

No you completely misunderstood what I was saying. They can have as much sex as they want, but there will be no new human mande out of it, hence it can't be normal.

The reason we have evolved sex to be pleasureable was to encourage us to have it and reproduce and make more of our kind. So even theoretically, yes having sex without chance at reproduction is not normal.



Around the Network
dtewi said:
Slimebeast said:

It may sound like a stretch, but simply think like this:

If there wasn't a repulsion, many horny males (and there's lots of them, and the reason is that it's an advantage to spread your seed to as many females as possible) would start to have sex with each other instead of hunting difficult chicks. And we can't have that because it's very important for our species survival that the majority of males are interested in chicks.

See you have this classical imbalance between the genders and their craving for sex. Chicks are by nature hard to get, for their own reasons (programmed to carefully select the right partner, thus hey don't want to fcuk around as much as men want in fear of getting pregnant with the wrong partner. This is the biological explanation).

Here's the thing:

Heterosexual men don't want to fuck each other.

Not out of repulsion, but because they sorta can't get horny.

Well you come up with a better explanation then lol.

I have done what you asked me to, prove that homphobia has a genetic component. To explain or speculate on how exactly it's a survival advantage is another task, which I obviously failed in your opinion.



Slimebeast said:

Well you come up with a better explanation then lol.

I have done what you asked me to, prove that homphobia has a genetic component. To explain or speculate on how exactly it's a survival advantage is another task, which I obviously failed in your opinion.


You haven't proved anything at all, but if it helps you sleep better, then good. You're only proving what we already know, no one is even trying to debate that homosexuality and heterosexuality are innate, and thus obviously a heterosexual male would not feel atraction towards another male. We already know that.

What you're assuming is that such innate heterosexuality causes homophobia, which is ridiculous and you haven't shown proof for at all. We've shown you time and again that homophobia is caused by culture, no one is born hating homosexuality, we are born with a preference for one or other gender or for both, but we don't have any innate hate.




zexen_lowe said:
Slimebeast said:

Well you come up with a better explanation then lol.

I have done what you asked me to, prove that homphobia has a genetic component. To explain or speculate on how exactly it's a survival advantage is another task, which I obviously failed in your opinion.


You haven't proved anything at all, but if it helps you sleep better, then good. You're only proving what we already know, no one is even trying to debate that homosexuality and heterosexuality are innate, and thus obviously a heterosexual male would not feel atraction towards another male. We already know that.

What you're assuming is that such innate heterosexuality causes homophobia, which is ridiculous and you haven't shown proof for at all. We've shown you time and again that homophobia is caused by culture, no one is born hating homosexuality, we are born with a preference for one or other gender or for both, but we don't have any innate hate.

I haven't even touched the subject of wether homo- or heterosexuality is innate. Of course it is. I am talking about homophobia and what makes people homophobic besides culture.

Where did I say "hate"? Homophobia is a term that includes lots of things, including the repulsion I have been talking about. Repulsion towards witnessing certain homosexual acts or repulsion to thoughts of oneself being intimate with another man.

And yes I have proved that homophobia has a genetic component. Read the abstract I provided of the twin study of homophobia.



sapphi_snake said:
trestres said:



One personal opinion on homophobic people. It's only natural of human beings to feel repulsion over something that's not following the lines of our natural ways of behaviour. I'm not even justifying homophobic people at all, because that's terrible, but you can't be angry over someone feeling repulsion after seeing 2 gay people kissing on the streets (so long as there is no agression or discrimination). I'm sure many would feel repulsion over a father and a daughter kissing or having sex, or people eating excrements, because those are things that go against the basic human instincts and what has been in our genetic memory for millions of years with the purpose of preserving the species. I'm not saying those are wrong, as in morally wrong, but they can be disturbing for some people and that needs to be aknowledged by the people performing such acts and so they should think whether it's appropiate or not to do it in X place at X time.


Homophobia is culturally determiend, it has no biological basis. In places where homosexual sex was accepted  , like say ancient Greece, there were no homophobes. Actually a lot of those things you said are culturally determined, they are not in our genes. So don't blame genetics for feeling repulsed by seeing gay people kiss.

And did you just compare gay people to people eating excrements??? Someone should ban you ASAP.

So eating excrements is wrong only because you don't like it. Who should be banned then? You are being elitist and you are discriminating others because of their preferences. Giving sexual preferences the priority over all preferences is totally wrong and unacceptable.

Plus you are speaking out of your ass when saying that biological history has nothing to do with people feeling repulsion over certain acts or things.



Proud poster of the 10000th reply at the Official Smash Bros Update Thread.

tag - "I wouldn't trust gamespot, even if it was a live comparison."

Bets with Conegamer:

Pandora's Tower will have an opening week of less than 37k in Japan. (Won!)
Pandora's Tower will sell less than 100k lifetime in Japan.
Stakes: 1 week of avatar control for each one.

Fullfilled Prophecies

mirgro said:
dtewi said:
mirgro said:

Great to hear there are more advanced nations out there that aren't slowed down by pathetic, antiquated, and obsolete ideas.

That said, I am fine with rights for gays, but I hate it when they try to pass themselves off as "normal." When the human race becomes asexual and you don't need a male and a female for new humans to be made then they can start off with the whole "normal" argument. Until then, I am sorry, but it is not normal.

Having sex for pleasure is not normal since it doesn't create new humans.

I mean, according to you, that's true, right?

No you completely misunderstood what I was saying. They can have as much sex as they want, but there will be no new human mande out of it, hence it can't be normal.

The reason we have evolved sex to be pleasureable was to encourage us to have it and reproduce and make more of our kind. So even theoretically, yes having sex without chance at reproduction is not normal.

SO hetro sex with a condom isn't normal?