Wait a second, Sonic on Wii might be the best 3d sonic in a while but it was still a half ass game, you basically ran through the same 8 levels doing different boring things if they hadn't gone that way and made a whole game with more levels and not so much repetition it could have been very good.

 The next Wii sonic game could be great based on the core of the Secret Rings game, Red Steel is atrocious and Rabbids is an ok game but that's not the kind of game that really stands out (especially next to Warioware), same applies to Super Monkey Balls. We don't know much about Nights and boogie yet so claiming that those are gonna be great is just premature.

 There aren't any big 3rd party games being announced for the Wii yet, all the games previously mentioned are secondary games for those respective companies. By big games I mean the kind of projects like Mass Effect or Lair, big epic games (or at least attempts at them, won't know how good these are till I actually play 'em.

There is also the danger of seeing too many kids games being sent to the Wii because of its appeal to the casual gamer, add to that games that are trying to do the same thing over and over again (minigame collections, there are already too many on the Wii for this short of a time). 

Until any publisher other than Nintendo actually makes use of the Wii either for big budget projects (Twilight Princess) or successfully makes a highly entertaining and well crafted game using hte Wii's unique controls  (Warioware, Wii Sports), I still won't consider the Wii having a strong 3rd party lineup...

Don't come and name me this or that game being released by other companies to prove that the 3rd party is actually strong for Wii. A large number of crappy, sub par, average or decent games doesn't make it so... 

 As for appealing to the mass market, games can be that and still be great games (again, Wii sports and Warioware), but we all know Nintendo does that better than anyone else and it seems to be staying that way for now.

The problem with 3rd parties is that thy dont know yet what to do with Wiis conrols. Or maybe they havent had the time to think that. The real interest in Wii (for developers) has been since E3 -06. 3rd parties still have the projects for other consoles, so they need to finish them and they also want money from Wiis success. So its either fast money from shitty games or make a bigger project and lose the opportunity to make money when there is not much competition. We will see big projects on Wii, after developers are finished the curren big projects. And how do you count a big project? By the amount of money invested? Then we possibly wont see big projects on Wii, maybe two smaller, which each with the same gameplay value than on one big project on 360 or PS3. Sonic statement about how bad it was, wasnt very good when comparing it to other 7G consoles Sonic. If it were crappy, other Sonics were more crappier. If Sega isnt focusing on Wii, Sega is focusing even less to Wiis competitors. Thats the point. Nintendo had a lowsy 3rd party support on GC, while Sony had the best. So, everything towards Nintendo is winning for them. Every console, which is most popular of its gen, gets the crappiest 3rd party titles, but also the best. Its a situation of win and lose. PS2 had really nothing when it was released. Or PSX. Or 360. Or PS3.

Having lots of 3rd party games are good, crappy or non crappy. PS2 had a lot of 3rd party games, and a lot of them were crappy. It comes with the territory.

How is the chance of 3rd party games killing the wii a bad thing?  I would see this as an upside! Wii is already killing games for the 360 and PS3 by forcing game makers to make games at the lowest common denominator, this is causing gamemakers to have to limit what they do for other systems and making them leaave out advancments...Maybe the gamemaker resent this and want nintendo to pay. I mean the wii has 88mb of memory compared to about 512 for the other 2......Thats not the harddrive..which the wii doesn't have.

1. Why am I feeding the trolls.
2. Do you mean that just because Wii is selling good, xbox360 wont get another Lost Planet or Dead Rising? I think we can easily say that xbox360 can stand on its own legs.

maybe nintendo should not allow the third parties to release more than five games for the wii per year... hmm... i think i have heard that before...

for those who didn't understand, with this rule, nintendo tried to ensure the quality of snes-games. i think they are not happy with the quality of third party games on the wii right now, but they learnt from snes-days that you can't force third parties to make good games, and that it is better to have bad games instead of having no games.

People buy the Wii then Wiisports to play it ,at least in Japan ,in US it would be Zelda .Then they need a second controller and they buy Wiiplay .Then we find the void .......decent sales in US but nothing remarkable ( along the PS3 a bit less in most multiplattform but with double the hardware sold is twice worse ) and crap sales in Japan where things like Path of Radiance have made discret debuts and others as Sonic ,Dragonball ,Shin Chan,Gundam  etc have flopped big time .

 some good stuff right there.