@Hyruken You're getting your dates mixed up, both GT5 and Black Ops are correct. GT5 is November 2nd, Black Ops is November 9th. The final week is still counted even though it's only 2 days, that's the way it's always been. And he was talking about the PS3 version of Black Ops, not the 360 version.

Ok i thought coz he mentioned Giggs chart in the post prior he was refering to that, my bad!

However the GT thing is still wrong,

Gt releases on 2nd November 2010.

12th Of July to 2nd November is 113 day's. 3 months and 21 day's. 113 day's divided by 7 days = 16 weeks and 1 day. So 16 weeks today it will be released.

I don't mean this in a nasty way so please don't take it that way but your waaaaay out on what you just said there.

For a starters Black Ops is tracking at x2 what GT is. This week is GT's 16th week until release, in Pre-order article they made a mistake it is not 17. Black op's has just got to it's 18th week, meaning GT has 2 weeks less to go then MW'BO's. Black op's has 200k pre-orders and GT has 106k. That is a big gap when you compare it to low numbers. If GT had say 1.5m pre-orders and Black op's had 1.6m Pre-orders then you could say it was tracking around the same, but they are not, far from it.

GT is tracking way below titles that have gone on to have a 1m pre-orders opening in US. This does not mean it is impossible it just means as the weeks go on at it's current rate it will have to make up for it in it's final weeks. As we can see from Giggs chart MW2 had 713k pre-orders in it's last 3 weeks prior to release. But prior to that period it still had 1.1m pre-orders. That shows the scale of popularity for the title. Right now the same thing is happening with Halo Reach. If we look through the history of GT games in americas we see the best 1st week a GT game had was GT4 which sold 770k in it's first week. For GT to break that 1m mark it must get 900k more pre-orders or average from now 56k a week. Which is almost 5x what it is doing now. That is a tall tall order. Not impossible. We will see in the next 4 weeks or so what kind of opening GT5 is likely to get.

Also Japan is the weakest region for GT games.

correct me if i'm wrong but..

so gran turismo 5 is just a smidge under CoD: black ops.  with the one week head start it is behind by around 20 k or basically 85%.  on the ps3 MW2 sold around 1.6M (sales not preorders) in the americas week one.  okay, maybe it's a leap of faith but 85% of 1.6M is 1.36M so a GT opening of around a million in the americas really isn't that far fetched.  europe and japan will together do at least the same as the americas so a opening week in the ballpark of 2 maybe 3 million is not out of the question. 

sure, halo will do better but not a bad opening for GT.

As I said earlier I have no doubt it will sell I just do not think it will be stellar actually MW2 on the PS3 current ltd sales sounds about what I think GT5 would do. I just wonder if the demographic that once supported the GT franchise still exists to the same extent.

correct me if i'm wrong but..

so gran turismo 5 is just a smidge under CoD: black ops.  with the one week head start it is behind by around 20 k or basically 85%.  on the ps3 MW2 sold around 1.6M (sales not preorders) in the americas week one.  okay, maybe it's a leap of faith but 85% of 1.6M is 1.36M so a GT opening of around a million in the americas really isn't that far fetched.  europe and japan will together do at least the same as the americas so a opening week in the ballpark of 2 maybe 3 million is not out of the question. 

sure, halo will do better but not a bad opening for GT.

Chart ended on July 10th, not 12th.

So that would be 16 weeks and 3 days.

@ i love giggs - love the comparision between the CoDs and halo.  any chance you want to do the same for CoDs ps3 and GT? xD

kitler53 said:

correct me if i'm wrong but..

so gran turismo 5 is just a smidge under CoD: black ops.  with the one week head start it is behind by around 20 k or basically 85%.  on the ps3 MW2 sold around 1.6M (sales not preorders) in the americas week one.  okay, maybe it's a leap of faith but 85% of 1.6M is 1.36M so a GT opening of around a million in the americas really isn't that far fetched.  europe and japan will together do at least the same as the americas so a opening week in the ballpark of 2 maybe 3 million is not out of the question. 

sure, halo will do better but not a bad opening for GT.