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twistedcellz said:
Soriku said:
twistedcellz said:

I just watch the trailer a third time and I fear the game might be real-time ( something like ff12 )

I hope Im wrong cuz I wanna be able to really control the characeter by myself and not have the game battle for me.I want a real action RPG like dark cloud,Rogue galaxy or Kingdom hearts.

Can somebody confirm if this is truly an Action RPG or just Real-time like Xenoblade ?

 


This game is an action RPG (Sakaguchi said it a while ago. Also it's pretty obvious looking at the trailer, not sure what you're seeing.) And for the record so is Xenoblade.

Btw, real time = action RPG. I think you might be looking for "semi-turnbased" here.

to get this clear games like kingdom Hearts,Dark Cloud,Rogue Galaxy or Tales are Action RPGs but Xenoblade combat is real-time like FF12.FF12 or Xenoblade are different from action RPG bcuz you just get to move ur character but u still gotta choose a command and have the game perform it for you.If you've played any of those titles u see that theres a big difference.

White Knight chronicles is another game they call Realtime.But to me those are boring,I like either turn based (chrono trigger) or real action rpg (kingdom hearts) not something in between.


I don't consider games that have turn based elements in streamlined gameplay "real time" but whatever...

The thing about Xenoblade is that there isn't some sort of ATB bar or anything or any turns so you don't have to wait for attacks like in turn based games. The game is an action RPG but it's not a button masher type like KH and somewhat Tales. There's some people who posted impressions on other sites saying they didn't like FF XII but love Xenoblade so you should still give it a try (you could always rent it...). It's not really what you think it is...

Edit: I know what you're talking about and your worries were my worries at first too but reading impresssions paints a different picture and watching vids make it seems different too.




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Soriku said:
twistedcellz said:
Soriku said:
twistedcellz said:

I just watch the trailer a third time and I fear the game might be real-time ( something like ff12 )

I hope Im wrong cuz I wanna be able to really control the characeter by myself and not have the game battle for me.I want a real action RPG like dark cloud,Rogue galaxy or Kingdom hearts.

Can somebody confirm if this is truly an Action RPG or just Real-time like Xenoblade ?

 


This game is an action RPG (Sakaguchi said it a while ago. Also it's pretty obvious looking at the trailer, not sure what you're seeing.) And for the record so is Xenoblade.

Btw, real time = action RPG. I think you might be looking for "semi-turnbased" here.

to get this clear games like kingdom Hearts,Dark Cloud,Rogue Galaxy or Tales are Action RPGs but Xenoblade combat is real-time like FF12.FF12 or Xenoblade are different from action RPG bcuz you just get to move ur character but u still gotta choose a command and have the game perform it for you.If you've played any of those titles u see that theres a big difference.

White Knight chronicles is another game they call Realtime.But to me those are boring,I like either turn based (chrono trigger) or real action rpg (kingdom hearts) not something in between.


I don't consider games that have turn based elements in streamlined gameplay "real time" but whatever...

The thing about Xenoblade is that there isn't some sort of ATB bar or anything or any turns so you don't have to wait for attacks like in turn based games. The game is an action RPG but it's not a button masher type like KH and somewhat Tales. There's some people who posted impressions on other sites saying they didn't like FF XII but love Xenoblade so you should still give it a try (you could always rent it...). It's not really what you think it is...

Edit: I know what you're talking about and your worries were my worries at first too but reading impresssions paints a different picture and watching vids make it seems different too.

i just learned that you can never really trust a rpg thats called real-time bcuz white knight and ff12 were called realtime but i hate that combat system.Maybe Xenoblade might be better but i still know that u gotta choose the command and have ur character perform it for you in a real-time kinda way.So I just hope The last story is not like that bcuz I wanna be able to fight with my skills and hit when I want or dodge when its the right time.I dont want fast action like kh or tales,I want more something like dark cloud or demon souls pace.But at least let me control my character completely or go turn based.

BTW Im still gonna give Xenoblade a chance but I just want this game to be right, so many RPGs gets ruined bcuz the combat system is broken or boring.



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Xxain said:

as of now XENO BLADE > The Last Story


Xenoblade is pretty much WoW, which is not a bad thing, will find out what Last Story is like when it's out and I'll let you guys know =). I'm really glad the musical score is good in general with current gen JRPGs btw, they all sound really good.



twistedcellz said:
Soriku said:
twistedcellz said:

I just watch the trailer a third time and I fear the game might be real-time ( something like ff12 )

I hope Im wrong cuz I wanna be able to really control the characeter by myself and not have the game battle for me.I want a real action RPG like dark cloud,Rogue galaxy or Kingdom hearts.

Can somebody confirm if this is truly an Action RPG or just Real-time like Xenoblade ?

 


This game is an action RPG (Sakaguchi said it a while ago. Also it's pretty obvious looking at the trailer, not sure what you're seeing.) And for the record so is Xenoblade.

Btw, real time = action RPG. I think you might be looking for "semi-turnbased" here.

to get this clear games like kingdom Hearts,Dark Cloud,Rogue Galaxy or Tales are Action RPGs but Xenoblade combat is real-time like FF12.FF12 or Xenoblade are different from action RPG bcuz you just get to move ur character but u still gotta choose a command and have the game perform it for you.If you've played any of those titles u see that theres a big difference.

White Knight chronicles is another game they call Realtime.But to me those are boring,I like either turn based (chrono trigger) or real action rpg (kingdom hearts) not something in between.

The issue with Action RPGs like Dark Cloud is that they usually have very weak action combat.  You generally just spam one attack with your weapon making all the difference.  It becomes a button masher, and it's rather boring.

If you're gonna go the action route, don't half-ass it.  Either make the gameplay arcadey like Ninja Gaiden, combining it's complex combat system with the stats and weapon variety of an RPG, or make it more realistic like Demon's Souls, where the focus is on outmaneuvering your enemy with a simple yet effective moveset (swing, thrust, parry, backstab).

From what RPGs I've played, I prefer a turn-based battle system like FFX, a real time turn-based battle system like FFXIII, or a combat system like Demon's Souls.



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It's really a shame that the only RPG that does multiplayer well is Secret of Mana on SNES.

They should have a combat oriented battle system, and let the party members be controlled by either players or AI.



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looks outstanding in every way, i cant wait too play this game. after this game he better give me my lost odyssey 2. 

i will get this game on launch day for sure, will get xenobalde for sure too. but this game gives that lost odyssey vibe and appeal , which makes me a very happy camper since i loved lost odyssey so very much.



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The last story's combat system looks awesome, I don't play terribly many RPG's due to being the proud owner of solely a wii. However, i have watched video of very many RPG's both western and eastern, and I think Last Story's action/combat system is amazing. I would love to know how deep it goes - because the surface details released in that video are quite awesome.



ROBOTECHHEAVEN said:

looks outstanding in every way, i cant wait too play this game. after this game he better give me my lost odyssey 2. 

i will get this game on launch day for sure, will get xenobalde for sure too. but this game gives that lost odyssey vibe and appeal , which makes me a very happy camper since i loved lost odyssey so very much.


yea please lost odyssey 2 lol



The cover mechianc looks pretty cool. Back flippin' crossbowin' awesomeness.



SOLIDSNAKE08 said:

its been confirmed today that GT5 has a weather system, track editor and go karts! seriously i think this is going to be the best selling in the series even beating GT3 sales of 14 million plus!