lestatdark is the king of derailing threads.. I swear.
lestatdark is the king of derailing threads.. I swear.
lestatdark said:
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Your points are valid. I just have faith in Obsidian to do good work I guess. And when I talked about Oscuru, obvisouly he needs a team to make a game, but he needs a great team to make a great game. I guess I didn't get my point across.
Time for hype
Khuutra said:
Sir if you are implying that there is any way in which the Sith Lords script was lacking, then you and I are goign to have a fight. |
Neither Kreia nor the True Sith story had as much depth or relevance as Revan and Malak had for KOTOR. Of course, this is my opinion. I've got to concede in the point of the Exile back-story though, it was very well put.
But my comment wasn't related to the lack, or not, of quality in KOTOR 2 story. KOTOR 2 has one of the best stories in any WRPG i've played, but it falters to KOTOR in my perspective.
What I meant was that the only way to surpass the quality of the story created in Chrono Trigger was if they could have a Planescape: Torment quality story for it.
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Xxain said: lestatdark is the king of derailing threads.. I swear.
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My initial comment was completely OT o.o
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lestatdark said: Neither KREIA nor the True Sith story had as much depth or relevance as Revan and Malak had for KOTOR. Of course, this is my opinion. I've got to concede in the point of the Exile back-story though, it was very well put. |
Just kidding! (or am I)
I will spare both of us the effort and trauma of a tirade related to why Kreia is not only the best character in that series or that IP (Star Wars in general) but also the best character in the entire medium. I will spare us this out of respect for you and an acknowledgment that different value sets can still be valid. I will spare us this grudgingly, fist quaking, a beard ready to sprout from my neck in outrage as every fiber in my being screams to defend what I consider the best script in the medium.
I don't understand why one would put Chrono Trigger's story on a pedestal, though. It was very good for what it was, but it was not a work of depth or drama to a degree higher than any Dragon Quest. Very good for what it is, but comparing it to an Avellone work would be bizarre.
Khuutra said:
Just kidding! (or am I) I will spare both of us the effort and trauma of a tirade related to why Kreia is not only the best character in that series or that IP (Star Wars in general) but also the best character in the entire medium. I will spare us this out of respect for you and an acknowledgment that different value sets can still be valid. I will spare us this grudgingly, fist quaking, a beard ready to sprout from my neck in outrage as every fiber in my being screams to defend what I consider the best script in the medium. I don't understand why one would put Chrono Trigger's story on a pedestal, though. It was very good for what it was, but it was not a work of depth or drama to a degree higher than any Dragon Quest. Very good for what it is, but comparing it to an Avellone work would be bizarre. |
That's the entire Quirk of Chrono trigger. The main story wasn't where the brilliance of the script was located, but rather, on all the subtleties and nuances that happened surrounding the characters and the NPC's.
I'll give you an example. One of the side-quests that you can do on CT which involved Robo, which was trying to grow back the forest between Guardia castle and Porre town, was brilliantly scripted. And the Rainbow Shell quest was probably one of the best scripted side-quests ever done for a JRPG, and sadly it was one of the side-quests that most people missed, because it was extremely subtle. Hats off to Toma XIII.
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I think it disgusts me that people hate JRPG developers or WRPG developers. I think all titles should be given a shot under a different developers. You never know if something magnificent can come about.
It would be cool if Obsidian had the opportunity. I would like to see what they can do with such an awesome game from a developers who has a great ability for story.
Squilliam: On Vgcharts its a commonly accepted practice to twist the bounds of plausibility in order to support your argument or agenda so I think its pretty cool that this gives me the precedent to say whatever I damn well please.
i wouldnt like the game if they made it, i havent liked any of their games much. they were ok, but nothing truly worthy of being handed a good ip like the chrono series.
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Porcupine_I said:
they always do that!
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Shhh, its kinda funny.
And I understand all the hate Obsidian gets, but come on! KOTOR 2 was great, gameplay wise, story wise, character wise (ok fine...maybe not the end)
Regardless, I would become sick if they were allowed to touch CT. (although these days I really do not know if SE would do a better job or not...)
Obsidian should write.
Mistuda should make the soundtrack.
Square Enix should deliver the graphic engine (since they have the best looking multiplatform game).
Sakaguchi should direct.
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