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Seece said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Seece said:
I LOVE GIGGS said:

Comparison between Halo Reach, Modern Warfare 2 and Black Ops (X360 only!).

  Halo Reach Modern Warfare 2 Black Ops
30 2,633 / 35,629 - -
29 4,164 / 39,793 - -
28 3,595 / 43,388 - -
27 3,430 / 46,818 - -
26 3,959 / 50,777 - 6,821 / 7,235
25 8,179 / 58,956 - 13,681 / 20,916
24 18,947 / 77,903 - 20,123 / 41,093
23 13,015 / 90,918 - 19,468 / 60,507
22 12,041 / 102,595 - 17,663 / 78,180
21 17,885 / 120,884 - 18,438 / 96,608
20 31,619 / 152,463 - 32,901 / 129,509
19 19,315 / 171,778 -  38,225 / 167,734
18 33,137 / 204,915 -  
17 35,189 / 240,104 -  
16 30,222 / 270,326 -  
15 28,359 / 298,685 -  
14 25,899 / 324,584 -  
13 25,038 / 349,622
-  
12 34,437 / 384,059 ???,???/ 431,166  
11 55,319 / 439,378 62,360 / 493,526  
10   64,354 / 557,880  
9   76,060 / 633,490  
8   78,642 / 712,582  
7   69,995 / 782,577  
6   93,153 / 875,730  
5   117,815 / 993,545  
4   150,279 / 1,143,824  
3   295,004 / 1,438,828  
2   193,176 / 1,632,004  
1   225,290 / 1,857,294  

Told you Reach would pick up, it'll do around MW2 numbers!

but it won't have the same legs...probably....

Check the article by TheSource about MW2 vs Halo 3 sales. If Reach can outsell MW2 (360 only), I'll eat my own dick.

Either way, its gonna be massive and will skyrocket to the top (as in #1 position) of the Yearly charts on release week. 

Why? Because you say so and that's the outcome you're hoping for?

No. Because,

Halo 3 first week -  3.81m

Halo 3 LTD - 11.05 (2.9x of first week within 33 months)

MW2 first week (360 only) - 4.94m

MW2 LTD - 11.11m (2.25x of first week within 8 months)

This week, MW2 on 360 sold - 48k

Conclusion :

Halo is more front loaded than CoD.

Prediction :

Reach will have a better first week than Halo 3. It will have better LTD sales than Halo 3. But it will not have better first week to 36 months sales ratio than Halo 3. (willing to take bets)

btw, seece, why did you assume that I would hope for bad legs on Reach ? I've seen you do this with many people and their posts...everyone who prefer the PS3 over the 360 aren't fandroids who hope for the 360's and it's games' failure. 



GodOfWar_3ever said:
Seece said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Seece said:
I LOVE GIGGS said:

Comparison between Halo Reach, Modern Warfare 2 and Black Ops (X360 only!).

  Halo Reach Modern Warfare 2 Black Ops
30 2,633 / 35,629 - -
29 4,164 / 39,793 - -
28 3,595 / 43,388 - -
27 3,430 / 46,818 - -
26 3,959 / 50,777 - 6,821 / 7,235
25 8,179 / 58,956 - 13,681 / 20,916
24 18,947 / 77,903 - 20,123 / 41,093
23 13,015 / 90,918 - 19,468 / 60,507
22 12,041 / 102,595 - 17,663 / 78,180
21 17,885 / 120,884 - 18,438 / 96,608
20 31,619 / 152,463 - 32,901 / 129,509
19 19,315 / 171,778 -  38,225 / 167,734
18 33,137 / 204,915 -  
17 35,189 / 240,104 -  
16 30,222 / 270,326 -  
15 28,359 / 298,685 -  
14 25,899 / 324,584 -  
13 25,038 / 349,622
-  
12 34,437 / 384,059 ???,???/ 431,166  
11 55,319 / 439,378 62,360 / 493,526  
10   64,354 / 557,880  
9   76,060 / 633,490  
8   78,642 / 712,582  
7   69,995 / 782,577  
6   93,153 / 875,730  
5   117,815 / 993,545  
4   150,279 / 1,143,824  
3   295,004 / 1,438,828  
2   193,176 / 1,632,004  
1   225,290 / 1,857,294  

Told you Reach would pick up, it'll do around MW2 numbers!

but it won't have the same legs...probably....

Check the article by TheSource about MW2 vs Halo 3 sales. If Reach can outsell MW2 (360 only), I'll eat my own dick.

Either way, its gonna be massive and will skyrocket to the top (as in #1 position) of the Yearly charts on release week. 

Why? Because you say so and that's the outcome you're hoping for?

No. Because,

Halo 3 first week -  3.81m

Halo 3 LTD - 11.05 (2.9x of first week within 33 months)

MW2 first week (360 only) - 4.94m

MW2 LTD - 11.11m (2.25x of first week within 8 months)

This week, MW2 on 360 sold - 48k

Conclusion :

Halo is more front loaded than CoD.

Prediction :

Reach will have a better first week than Halo 3. It will have better LTD sales than Halo 3. But it will not have better first week to 36 months sales ratio than Halo 3. (willing to take bets)

btw, seece, why did you assume that I would hope for bad legs on Reach ? I've seen you do this with many people and their posts...everyone who prefer the PS3 over the 360 aren't fandroids who hope for the 360's and it's games' failure. 

What a fail of a comparison between MW2 and Halo 3, when all is said and down Halo 3 will end up around 12 mill, and MW2 15 mill, meaning they sold 1.3 of their sales in the first week.

Yeah I assume with the right people



 

Seece said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Seece said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Seece said:
I LOVE GIGGS said:

Comparison between Halo Reach, Modern Warfare 2 and Black Ops (X360 only!).

  Halo Reach Modern Warfare 2 Black Ops
30 2,633 / 35,629 - -
29 4,164 / 39,793 - -
28 3,595 / 43,388 - -
27 3,430 / 46,818 - -
26 3,959 / 50,777 - 6,821 / 7,235
25 8,179 / 58,956 - 13,681 / 20,916
24 18,947 / 77,903 - 20,123 / 41,093
23 13,015 / 90,918 - 19,468 / 60,507
22 12,041 / 102,595 - 17,663 / 78,180
21 17,885 / 120,884 - 18,438 / 96,608
20 31,619 / 152,463 - 32,901 / 129,509
19 19,315 / 171,778 -  38,225 / 167,734
18 33,137 / 204,915 -  
17 35,189 / 240,104 -  
16 30,222 / 270,326 -  
15 28,359 / 298,685 -  
14 25,899 / 324,584 -  
13 25,038 / 349,622
-  
12 34,437 / 384,059 ???,???/ 431,166  
11 55,319 / 439,378 62,360 / 493,526  
10   64,354 / 557,880  
9   76,060 / 633,490  
8   78,642 / 712,582  
7   69,995 / 782,577  
6   93,153 / 875,730  
5   117,815 / 993,545  
4   150,279 / 1,143,824  
3   295,004 / 1,438,828  
2   193,176 / 1,632,004  
1   225,290 / 1,857,294  

Told you Reach would pick up, it'll do around MW2 numbers!

but it won't have the same legs...probably....

Check the article by TheSource about MW2 vs Halo 3 sales. If Reach can outsell MW2 (360 only), I'll eat my own dick.

Either way, its gonna be massive and will skyrocket to the top (as in #1 position) of the Yearly charts on release week. 

Why? Because you say so and that's the outcome you're hoping for?

No. Because,

Halo 3 first week -  3.81m

Halo 3 LTD - 11.05 (2.9x of first week within 33 months)

MW2 first week (360 only) - 4.94m

MW2 LTD - 11.11m (2.25x of first week within 8 months)

This week, MW2 on 360 sold - 48k

Conclusion :

Halo is more front loaded than CoD.

Prediction :

Reach will have a better first week than Halo 3. It will have better LTD sales than Halo 3. But it will not have better first week to 36 months sales ratio than Halo 3. (willing to take bets)

btw, seece, why did you assume that I would hope for bad legs on Reach ? I've seen you do this with many people and their posts...everyone who prefer the PS3 over the 360 aren't fandroids who hope for the 360's and it's games' failure. 

What a fail of a comparison between MW2 and Halo 3, when all is said and down Halo 3 will end up around 12 mill, and MW2 15 mill, meaning they sold 1.3 of their sales in the first week.

Yeah I assume with the right people

lol. 15 million....thats all you think MW2 can do ? Wait for this holiday....and the next one...and the next one..
Math fail. That would mean Halo 3 sold 3.15 times its first week. MW2 would have sold 3.03 times its first week. But MW2 won't stop at 15m.



Hyruken said:
steverhcp02 said:
Hyruken said:

Some big jumps for some games from last week!

However GT5 went down by 2k. For whatever reasons the person who does the pre-order charts has decided to ignore Gt5 release date for the 3rd week in a row.

But for those who want to compare it to other games this week marks the 17th week until release for it.

At 17th week Halo reach was at 240k as you can see from Giggs' chart.


This is Americas preorder charts.

If we analyze the numbers, we see Halo 1-3 as well as ODST has Americas sales accounting for 72-80% of its total sales.

For GT we see americas sales for GT-GT4 plus prologue has between 20-30% sans GT3 A-spec which launched with a bundle in 2001.

WW id say theyre a good comparison, but honestly comparing preorders for a racing simulator on PS3 against Halo in America as some type of benchmark is the defination of lame, imo.

Sorry mate but i couldn't disagree with you more. You can't say "oh you can't compare a fps game with a racing game" as that is just looking for excuses. Both Halo and GT are massive franchises ALL OVER THE WORLD! I am sick to death of this whole Halo only sells in US, GT only sells in europe thing as it is total bollocks.

Right now if we use only Vgc figures on this website Halo 3 is the top selling exclusive game in europe. 2nd overall in all games this gen. If being 2nd doesn't show people outside europe like Halo then wtf does?!

 

 

No, if both sell about 10 million WW and 80% of Halo sales are in the states, and 20% of GT in the states comparing the American sales of the two as a benchmark to success is RETARDED.

I didnt even read the rest of your novel because you started babbling some shit no one ever said about Halo not selling anywhere else.

I never once said "Halo only sells" in the US, look matey, its simple. We all know your comparison was a backhand at GT, thats fine, but its fucking laughable and stupid if you took 10 seconds to check out % of WW sales accounted for in the region.

Its astonishing you feel comparing a franchise that sells almost twice as much as another in a certain region is valid.

EDIT: Non heavily bundled of course. As we all fondly remember GT3 and GT were bundled heavily bundled. I cant remember if GT2 was or not.



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At least Halo Reach had a bigger increase this week.  Still tracking a ways below MW2....and it looks like Black Ops is catching up to Reach's pre-orders fast.



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steverhcp02 said:
Hyruken said:
steverhcp02 said:
Hyruken said:

Some big jumps for some games from last week!

However GT5 went down by 2k. For whatever reasons the person who does the pre-order charts has decided to ignore Gt5 release date for the 3rd week in a row.

But for those who want to compare it to other games this week marks the 17th week until release for it.

At 17th week Halo reach was at 240k as you can see from Giggs' chart.


This is Americas preorder charts.

If we analyze the numbers, we see Halo 1-3 as well as ODST has Americas sales accounting for 72-80% of its total sales.

For GT we see americas sales for GT-GT4 plus prologue has between 20-30% sans GT3 A-spec which launched with a bundle in 2001.

WW id say theyre a good comparison, but honestly comparing preorders for a racing simulator on PS3 against Halo in America as some type of benchmark is the defination of lame, imo.

Sorry mate but i couldn't disagree with you more. You can't say "oh you can't compare a fps game with a racing game" as that is just looking for excuses. Both Halo and GT are massive franchises ALL OVER THE WORLD! I am sick to death of this whole Halo only sells in US, GT only sells in europe thing as it is total bollocks.

Right now if we use only Vgc figures on this website Halo 3 is the top selling exclusive game in europe. 2nd overall in all games this gen. If being 2nd doesn't show people outside europe like Halo then wtf does?!

 

 

No, if both sell about 10 million WW and 80% of Halo sales are in the states, and 20% of GT in the states comparing the American sales of the two as a benchmark to success is RETARDED.

I didnt even read the rest of your novel because you started babbling some shit no one ever said about Halo not selling anywhere else.

I never once said "Halo only sells" in the US, look matey, its simple. We all know your comparison was a backhand at GT, thats fine, but its fucking laughable and stupid if you took 10 seconds to check out % of WW sales accounted for in the region.

Its astonishing you feel comparing a franchise that sells almost twice as much as another in a certain region is valid.

EDIT: Non heavily bundled of course. As we all fondly remember GT3 and GT were bundled heavily bundled. I cant remember if GT2 was or not.


What i said was not a back hand at GT, far from it. It was an analysis of it's current pre-orders in comparison to other games. It was to show how quick people such as yourself are to change the rule book by which it can be compared. And once again you have done it. You have tried to defend the numbers by turning it into a "You can't compare GT5 numbers in america to other games because it sells most in EU". But yet in your first post you said "This is for US numbers".

My figures which you chose to ignore show that Halo does just as well in other countries as it does in US. In fact it's attach ratio in others is better then GT. You seem to ignore these things because they don't fit in with your defence.

On VGC we don't have all the data for all the GT games. But we do for GT4. We see in it's opening week it sold 750k in US. And 1m in others. Right now if GT5 continues to track at it's current rate it will not beat those US numbers.

With all the talk, all the hype to potentially have a worse opening week in any region is not progress right? If that happens and that is a big IF. What makes you confident the same pattern will not occur in others? This is GT5, the game that some said was going to sell 5m in it's first week? games such as MW2 and Halo 3 have sold near to those figures. Reach is roughly tracking around MW2 so we know it will do ok in comparison.



wow at Halo Reach nbrs

but, neverthless, CoD franchise >> Halo franchise on console as I was expecting

Halo is the king on 360 but, gamers in general, play CoD



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