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voty2000 said:
mai said:
oldschoolfool said:

Multiculturalism is what America is all about. So I would say no.

I assume you didn't watch Borat? =)


Your gonna use a comedy for your argument?  A comedy that tries to incite racism?

You obviously missed the point.



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mai said:
voty2000 said:
mai said:
oldschoolfool said:

Multiculturalism is what America is all about. So I would say no.

I assume you didn't watch Borat? =)


Your gonna use a comedy for your argument?  A comedy that tries to incite racism?

You obviously missed the point.

I guess so.



It's completely failed yes. I can't see much good about it, mostly it causes major problems. Problems you aren't even allowed to discuss because it isn't politically correct.

Plus it destroys the historical heritage of cultures in Europe. Everything is merging into a huge boring melting pot. That sux.



Slimebeast said:

It's completely failed yes. I can't see much good about it, mostly it causes major problems. Problems you aren't even allowed to discuss because it isn't politically correct.

Plus it destroys the historical heritage of cultures in Europe. Everything is merging into a huge boring melting pot. That sux.


Blah... historical heritage = idealized nationalistic nonsense aimed at making your own country seem amazing and at stirring resentment towards other nations.



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sapphi_snake said:
Slimebeast said:

It's completely failed yes. I can't see much good about it, mostly it causes major problems. Problems you aren't even allowed to discuss because it isn't politically correct.

Plus it destroys the historical heritage of cultures in Europe. Everything is merging into a huge boring melting pot. That sux.


Blah... historical heritage = idealized nationalistic nonsense aimed at making your own country seem amazing and at stirring resentment towards other nations.

Im all for multiculturalism, but preserving identity is extremely important, if we dont protect certain european values and traditions we might as well give up protecting freedom of speech or tolerance (which are part of that heritage)



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sapphi_snake said:
xbebop said:

I just went to Japan for a 17-day vacation. I was around Japanese college students for days on end, talking to them, getting drunk off my ass with them, and you know what? They're exactly the same as us. As long as you're not a total jackass, and you know a good bit of the language, you can get along in almost any modern society(US, Japan, Canada, EU nations, Russia, etc.). Multiculturalism will become obsolete during this century, as the world becomes more and more homogenous culturally. We're all fucking human, which is the most important thing, and traditions/culture really make up very little of what we are in the modern world.


What's funny is that your experience seems to contradict everything I've ever read about Japan, including other people's experiences.


Of course, I was around people that were extremely tolerant of other cultures(most of them had been to America previously). However, I'll learn more during my study abroad there from October-July 2011. I'll still be interracting with mostly college students, but hey, the younger generation dictates where the culture goes.



No it works, just look at Canada, multiculturalism at its best.



Lolcislaw said:
sapphi_snake said:
Slimebeast said:

It's completely failed yes. I can't see much good about it, mostly it causes major problems. Problems you aren't even allowed to discuss because it isn't politically correct.

Plus it destroys the historical heritage of cultures in Europe. Everything is merging into a huge boring melting pot. That sux.


Blah... historical heritage = idealized nationalistic nonsense aimed at making your own country seem amazing and at stirring resentment towards other nations.

Im all for multiculturalism, but preserving identity is extremely important, if we dont protect certain european values and traditions we might as well give up protecting freedom of speech or tolerance (which are part of that heritage)


I totally agree, some values need to be preserved. But only those that have a logical basis and contribute to the general well-being of human beings (like for example freedom of speech). Obviously we should reject things like Sharia Law (don't know if I've spelled it correctly), because it would undermine any progress made by European states in therms of civil rights. Plus, if I personally get annoyed when so-called secular states don't have the guts to put religious minorities in their place (especially muslims).



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

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"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

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O-D-C said:

No it works, just look at Canada, multiculturalism at its best.


http://www.thestar.com/specialsections/article/830516--kelly-i-love-this-wretched-place

This ran on Canada day in the paper describing multiculturalism and is pretty much bang on why it works in Canada.

This part in perticular...

"I tell them there are two types of Canadians — “mungies” and the rest of us.

Mungies (short for “mungie cakes” — persons with no real ethnic identity) are the “real” Canadians who are defined by their ability to skate. Doesn’t matter if you got here yesterday. If you skate, you are a mungie.

Mungies fly flags at their cottages. If they don’t own a cottage, they buy a flag anyway and pack it away in anticipation of the day when they will own a cottage. They are secretly uncomfortable about gay marriage and downtown injection sites. Until someone from somewhere else tells them they hate those things. That sort of close-mindedness offends your average mungie.

Then there’s everyone else. When we were kids we called them “FOBs” — though you didn’t necessarily need to be fresh off the boat to be one. You just had to act like you were. We were terribly jealous of them. They had access to greater stores of fun and tradition."