Did Nintendo ever sound this desperate when they were in last place?

Hopefully this will send a message to all potential pretenders to the crown.

Try and use gaming as your personal trojan horse and you might find that gaming tears your core business to shreds.

Revenge is best served WITHOUT GLASSES!

I memtoined the Kevin Butler ads, and guess what?  I have a Sony PSP,TV, a Ps2 and nearly 100 games for the system.  The problem is that those ads are funny, but do nothing more than say "the other guys are stupid, check us out" rather than promote their own products.  For them to whine about Nintendo picking on them is the epitomy of the "pot calling the kettle black".  Also Kevin Butler is an actor, and the speech he gave at E3 was good, but I doubt Sony Marketing came up with it...if they did it would have been just like the ads.... 

This thread should be archived. In 5 years from now, it will be funny to show people how completely wrong they were. Most of the people in this thread simply do not have enough knowledge about the various types of 3D displays.

Autostereoscopic displays (= the type of display built into the 3DS) will be extremely popular very soon - you will soon find them in lots of mobile phones, portable gaming devices etc. But their success will be limited to small, portable devices for quite a few years. And it's not like this kind of technology simply does not work on big screens - it does. But: The 3D effect on these displays is significantly worse than on displays that require 3D glasses. And, even worse, it only works for one person sitting directly in front of the TV. And those displays are much more expensive than 3D screens that require glasses - who is going to put a 10.000 dollar 3DTV in his living room that only one person can actually enjoy? Well, there are so called multiview displays which deal with that problem. But they come with other, even bigger disadvantages that do not make them a realistic alternative. Philips was pretty much technology leader for 3DTVs without glasses when last year they suddenly stopped their investments because they realized the next couple of years 3DTVs will only be successful with glasses.

3D displays will be extremely successful very soon - in small, mobile devices without glasses, in 3DTVs with glasses.

Yeah, 3D glasses based TVs have been so successful after 3 months they have had 70% of the revenue the Dreamcast achieved on its launch day even though the Dreamcast was (less than) 20% the cost of these TVs.

Right now people are avoiding 3DTV like the plague even though 3DTVs are not (that) much more expensive than HDTVs; and I think it is fair to attribute a lot of the lack of success of these 3DTVs to the fact that people don't like glasses based 3D displays.

You're correct in saying that the glasses-free 3D displays are not ready for a home theater environment yet, but I believe that 3DTV will follow a similar adoption path that HDTV did; and the release of viable, affordable, glasses free 3DTVs will have a similar effect in the market as low-cost Plasma and LCD HDTVs did.

Or to put it another way, HDTVs were introduced in the mid 1990s and remained a niche product for videophiles until people were able to buy a $1000 Flat Screen HDTV.

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Who in the mainstream is going to jump into what is effectively a half measure technology when the full measure glass-less 3D is just around the corner? They just need to see one or two glassless models on the market for even $10,000 because everyone understands that 10k becomes 2k within around 2-4 years with TV technology advancing like it is. The more people are exposed to this technology, the less desirable it is for anyone to jump in if theres a belief that the current crop of 3DTVs are going to be completely obsolete in 2-3 years.

In any case its useless even buying a 3DTV with active shutter glasses because odds are pretty good that you could get an even better 3D experience within a few years without a TV. If you've got powered glasses, why not put the display in the glasses? Why do you even need a TV if you're going to go that far?

Sum up = If you want 3D without glasses you don't want a current generation 3DTV just wait, and if you don't mind the glasses then you may as well wait for display tech to improve so you can watch your 3D without the TV.

Becaue TV is not the same as  a handheld device. Also 3D is more effective with a big screen or close to the monitor.

Betamax did phenomenally well in the professional markets.

I should point out that as far as DVD Sony was pushing MMCD with phillips in the early 90's. The rest of the industry was pushing a format called Super Density Disc. 

The DVD you use and love today is based off of the Super-Density Discs. Sony and Phillips introduced the Dual layer aspect to it.

As for CD's Sony had absolutely nothing to do with the format. Instead they created the sound chip which decoded the stream from the disc. An important part of a system but not a fundemental one.

1. Avatar.
2. How to train your dragon.
3. Erm haven't seen any others!

Yeah Kevin Butler did have a Go on the Wii mote and the Kienct especially doing that silly pew pew firing from his finger act. What an idiot. Now that Nintendo said you don't need glasses or expensive TV's for 3D, Sony is being offended with this? What the hell? I hope they get more offended then.