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Soleron on 30 June 2010
Mr Khan said:
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Has Microsoft done much to that effect? They've largely ignored Nintendo in their run so far, unlike Sony and Sega who have focused their attention there. Really everyone ignored Nintendo through the GameCube era, and its more been Sony speaking against Nintendo this generation than Microsoft (though they've gotten a few jibes of their own)


Malstrom believes (yes, I know) that MS uses legions of viral marketers posting on message boards to influence thought in that direction. Like how Gamespot/IGN boards were flooded with 'DS/Wii are kiddy' on their launches or 'Kinect has so much potential' at E3 even though few people believed those things so confidently.

" Viral Marketers act as ‘shepherds’ on popular message forums or websites in order to corral opinion the way their company wants. Viral marketers appear at certain specific times such as during promotion of a company’s product or when that company’s product is released. For example, viral marketers were unleashed when ‘Natal’ was unveiled at E3 2009 as they declared how ‘amazing’ it was and tried to shepherd all other opinions about it. You could instantly spot the viral marketer when they would use language like ‘just imagine the possibilities!’ as in trying to shepherd other people to ‘use their imaginations’ to invest in Natal. What was really funny was that gamers did do this. They ‘used their imaginations’, and it got out of control. People began ‘imagining’ a brand new console successor to the Xbox 360 which, if it kept going on, people would begin to stop buying Xbox 360s  because ‘they read on the Internet that the Xbox 360 successor would come out with Natal’. Microsoft had to make some public comments, and they reigned in their little marketers."



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jarrod on 30 June 2010
Soleron said:
Mr Khan said:
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Has Microsoft done much to that effect? They've largely ignored Nintendo in their run so far, unlike Sony and Sega who have focused their attention there. Really everyone ignored Nintendo through the GameCube era, and its more been Sony speaking against Nintendo this generation than Microsoft (though they've gotten a few jibes of their own)


Malstrom believes (yes, I know) that MS uses legions of viral marketers posting on message boards to influence thought in that direction. Like how Gamespot/IGN boards were flooded with 'DS/Wii are kiddy' on their launches or 'Kinect has so much potential' at E3 even though few people believed those things so confidently.

" Viral Marketers act as ‘shepherds’ on popular message forums or websites in order to corral opinion the way their company wants. Viral marketers appear at certain specific times such as during promotion of a company’s product or when that company’s product is released. For example, viral marketers were unleashed when ‘Natal’ was unveiled at E3 2009 as they declared how ‘amazing’ it was and tried to shepherd all other opinions about it. You could instantly spot the viral marketer when they would use language like ‘just imagine the possibilities!’ as in trying to shepherd other people to ‘use their imaginations’ to invest in Natal. What was really funny was that gamers did do this. They ‘used their imaginations’, and it got out of control. People began ‘imagining’ a brand new console successor to the Xbox 360 which, if it kept going on, people would begin to stop buying Xbox 360s  because ‘they read on the Internet that the Xbox 360 successor would come out with Natal’. Microsoft had to make some public comments, and they reigned in their little marketers."

Microsoft does try to court virals.  I was approached on GAF once, and offered free games and invited to an event.



famousringo on 30 June 2010
jarrod said:
Soleron said:
Mr Khan said:
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Has Microsoft done much to that effect? They've largely ignored Nintendo in their run so far, unlike Sony and Sega who have focused their attention there. Really everyone ignored Nintendo through the GameCube era, and its more been Sony speaking against Nintendo this generation than Microsoft (though they've gotten a few jibes of their own)


Malstrom believes (yes, I know) that MS uses legions of viral marketers posting on message boards to influence thought in that direction. Like how Gamespot/IGN boards were flooded with 'DS/Wii are kiddy' on their launches or 'Kinect has so much potential' at E3 even though few people believed those things so confidently.

" Viral Marketers act as ‘shepherds’ on popular message forums or websites in order to corral opinion the way their company wants. Viral marketers appear at certain specific times such as during promotion of a company’s product or when that company’s product is released. For example, viral marketers were unleashed when ‘Natal’ was unveiled at E3 2009 as they declared how ‘amazing’ it was and tried to shepherd all other opinions about it. You could instantly spot the viral marketer when they would use language like ‘just imagine the possibilities!’ as in trying to shepherd other people to ‘use their imaginations’ to invest in Natal. What was really funny was that gamers did do this. They ‘used their imaginations’, and it got out of control. People began ‘imagining’ a brand new console successor to the Xbox 360 which, if it kept going on, people would begin to stop buying Xbox 360s  because ‘they read on the Internet that the Xbox 360 successor would come out with Natal’. Microsoft had to make some public comments, and they reigned in their little marketers."

Microsoft does try to court virals.  I was approached on GAF once, and offered free games and invited to an event.


A few free games and a party? That's some damn cheap marketing.



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Mr Khan on 30 June 2010
famousringo said:
jarrod said:
Soleron said:
Mr Khan said:
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Has Microsoft done much to that effect? They've largely ignored Nintendo in their run so far, unlike Sony and Sega who have focused their attention there. Really everyone ignored Nintendo through the GameCube era, and its more been Sony speaking against Nintendo this generation than Microsoft (though they've gotten a few jibes of their own)


Malstrom believes (yes, I know) that MS uses legions of viral marketers posting on message boards to influence thought in that direction. Like how Gamespot/IGN boards were flooded with 'DS/Wii are kiddy' on their launches or 'Kinect has so much potential' at E3 even though few people believed those things so confidently.

" Viral Marketers act as ‘shepherds’ on popular message forums or websites in order to corral opinion the way their company wants. Viral marketers appear at certain specific times such as during promotion of a company’s product or when that company’s product is released. For example, viral marketers were unleashed when ‘Natal’ was unveiled at E3 2009 as they declared how ‘amazing’ it was and tried to shepherd all other opinions about it. You could instantly spot the viral marketer when they would use language like ‘just imagine the possibilities!’ as in trying to shepherd other people to ‘use their imaginations’ to invest in Natal. What was really funny was that gamers did do this. They ‘used their imaginations’, and it got out of control. People began ‘imagining’ a brand new console successor to the Xbox 360 which, if it kept going on, people would begin to stop buying Xbox 360s  because ‘they read on the Internet that the Xbox 360 successor would come out with Natal’. Microsoft had to make some public comments, and they reigned in their little marketers."

Microsoft does try to court virals.  I was approached on GAF once, and offered free games and invited to an event.


A few free games and a party? That's some damn cheap marketing.

Yeah, i'd ask for free LIVE for a year and $60 a month on top of that to buy a game a month.



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Jirakon on 30 June 2010

Is this game really necessary to make Nintendo look mature? The 3DS already has Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid, and I'm sure there's plenty more to come. Why would they want to port an XBLA game when they've already got those killer apps?



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SleepWaking on 30 June 2010
Jirakon said:

Is this game really necessary to make Nintendo look mature? The 3DS already has Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid, and I'm sure there's plenty more to come. Why would they want to port an XBLA game when they've already got those killer apps?


I think if Nintendo really put them up to it, they did a very good job. I think the reaction at E3 when this title was announced is enough proof of this. It's just really wasn't expected and it does attract a different market then RE or MGS imo. Plus differentiating  your library is always good. You're over simplifying things if you would say that all mature titles are more or less the same. I also think it's not only to make Nintendo look mature, having an action sandbox game on your console is always preferred.



Metallicube on 30 June 2010

Meh, I'm far more interested in Assassin's Creed on 3DS.



SleepWaking on 30 June 2010
Metallicube said:

Meh, I'm far more interested in Assassin's Creed on 3DS.


I would say they both got a lot of potential. Still not expecting too much from either.



LordTheNightKnight on 30 June 2010
SleepWaking said:
Jirakon said:

Is this game really necessary to make Nintendo look mature? The 3DS already has Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid, and I'm sure there's plenty more to come. Why would they want to port an XBLA game when they've already got those killer apps?


I think if Nintendo really put them up to it, they did a very good job. I think the reaction at E3 when this title was announced is enough proof of this. It's just really wasn't expected and it does attract a different market then RE or MGS imo. Plus differentiating  your library is always good. You're over simplifying things if you would say that all mature titles are more or less the same. I also think it's not only to make Nintendo look mature, having an action sandbox game on your console is always preferred.


Not to mention it insults gamers to think that one M rated game is as good as the other.



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ROBOTECHHEAVEN on 30 June 2010

nice too see more hardcore games coming to the 3ds, makes it more of a purchase already for me.



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