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Demotruk on 12 October 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
Demotruk said:

From the interviewer "It is likely that Reggie is referring to North American sales alone", presumably that was what it seemed in context, especially since Metroid regularly reaches 1.5 million worldwide.

Please there's no way he expected it to do that much in NA alone, if it will be the most underperfoming game of the gen


Why not? Remember that at the time most of Nintendo's big franchises had managed to expand themselves massively, Metroid was one of the few that hadn't.



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darkgemini on 12 October 2010
Khuutra said:
Demotruk said:

It's nearly at 500K now so it looks like Rol will not get the 13 week prediction, I think I'll get that with 600K. It's not unlikely that Rol will still get the lifetime numbers closest though (as long as it does not pass 825K).

It will be interesting to see if the game can hit 500k in week 6. If its drops is anything like the drop from week 4 to week 5 then it will wind up short.


I think not. I think it will finish up at 496k in week 6. 



oni-link on 12 October 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
Demotruk said:

From the interviewer "It is likely that Reggie is referring to North American sales alone", presumably that was what it seemed in context, especially since Metroid regularly reaches 1.5 million worldwide.

Please there's no way he expected it to do that much in NA alone, if it will be the most underperfoming game of the gentat


That's just the author's translation of the video interview.  When I actually watched it I had a diffrent view of the interview starting at 2:55 this is said: “Metroid is a key franchise, and in our view really since the SNES Metroid, we haven’t broken through in terms of 1.5 - 2 millions units. That’s our bar. That’s the scale that we look at to say on a global basis this is effective.”

 

To me that means that number is the goal Nintendo hopes to achieve to expand Metroid franchise in the future.  Either with this game or the next Metroid; however it is only the goal to EXPAND the franchise as it has not broken that number since the SNES days which is the era of Nintendo's peak success !!!

BTW here is the link to the interview so you can make the decision yourself (like I did) on what Reggie was trying to say

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/newsupermariobroswii/video/6211815



darthdevidem01 on 12 October 2010
oni-link said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Demotruk said:

From the interviewer "It is likely that Reggie is referring to North American sales alone", presumably that was what it seemed in context, especially since Metroid regularly reaches 1.5 million worldwide.

Please there's no way he expected it to do that much in NA alone, if it will be the most underperfoming game of the gent


That's just the author's translation of the video interview.  When I actually watched it I had a diffrent view of the interview starting at 2:55 this is said: “Metroid is a key franchise, and in our view really since the SNES Metroid, we haven’t broken through in terms of 1.5 - 2 millions units. That’s our bar. That’s the scale that we look at to say on a global basis this is effective.”

Cool nice to see I was right on that

Demotruk is just being overly harsh cus he hates the game.



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trestres on 12 October 2010
oni-link said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Demotruk said:

From the interviewer "It is likely that Reggie is referring to North American sales alone", presumably that was what it seemed in context, especially since Metroid regularly reaches 1.5 million worldwide.

Please there's no way he expected it to do that much in NA alone, if it will be the most underperfoming game of the gentat


That's just the author's translation of the video interview.  When I actually watched it I had a diffrent view of the interview starting at 2:55 this is said: “Metroid is a key franchise, and in our view really since the SNES Metroid, we haven’t broken through in terms of 1.5 - 2 millions units. That’s our bar. That’s the scale that we look at to say on a global basis this is effective.”

 

To me that means that number is the goal Nintendo hopes to achieve to expand Metroid franchise in the future.  Either with this game or the next Metroid; however it is only the goal to EXPAND the franchise as it has not broken that number since the SNES days which is the era of Nintendo's summit of success !!!


Oh yes it did break the 2 million barrier. Ask Metroid Prime.



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Demotruk on 12 October 2010

Interesting. There's one slight problem with Reggie's statement in that case though, it's factually incorrect. Metroid Prime absolutely broke through 1.5 to 2 million, even if you go by non-vgchartz numbers it sold at least 1.5 million in the US alone. Perhaps he actually was making things up as he was going along in that interview.. just a little.

Though yes, if that was the only comment about Metroid Other M sales expectations, then we don't know how much they were expecting realistically.



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It is largely a technical exercise but feedback is appreciated.

oni-link on 12 October 2010
trestres said:
oni-link said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Demotruk said:

From the interviewer "It is likely that Reggie is referring to North American sales alone", presumably that was what it seemed in context, especially since Metroid regularly reaches 1.5 million worldwide.

Please there's no way he expected it to do that much in NA alone, if it will be the most underperfoming game of the gentat


That's just the author's translation of the video interview.  When I actually watched it I had a diffrent view of the interview starting at 2:55 this is said: “Metroid is a key franchise, and in our view really since the SNES Metroid, we haven’t broken through in terms of 1.5 - 2 millions units. That’s our bar. That’s the scale that we look at to say on a global basis this is effective.”

 

To me that means that number is the goal Nintendo hopes to achieve to expand Metroid franchise in the future.  Either with this game or the next Metroid; however it is only the goal to EXPAND the franchise as it has not broken that number since the SNES days which is the era of Nintendo's summit of success !!!


Oh yes it did break the 2 million barrier. Ask Metroid Prime.

 

I think Reggie WOULD KNOW MORE THAN YOU, no offense.  The original Metroid Prime numbers are bloated beyond reason.  Some of the contributing factors are  1) It's a launch title 2) It was given away as a free game at retail as part of Nintendo's promotion to sell GCN 3)It was bundled together with the gamecube to launch Echoes 4) IT BECAME A PLAYERS CHOICE which means it sold at retail for a few years at budget price in contrast to the others!!!

links:

http://cube.ign.com/articles/527/527888p1.html

http://www.gamecubicle.com/news-nintendo_gamecube_free_game_bundle_promotion.htm



trestres on 12 October 2010
oni-link said:
trestres said:
oni-link said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Demotruk said:

From the interviewer "It is likely that Reggie is referring to North American sales alone", presumably that was what it seemed in context, especially since Metroid regularly reaches 1.5 million worldwide.

Please there's no way he expected it to do that much in NA alone, if it will be the most underperfoming game of the gentat


That's just the author's translation of the video interview.  When I actually watched it I had a diffrent view of the interview starting at 2:55 this is said: “Metroid is a key franchise, and in our view really since the SNES Metroid, we haven’t broken through in terms of 1.5 - 2 millions units. That’s our bar. That’s the scale that we look at to say on a global basis this is effective.”

 

To me that means that number is the goal Nintendo hopes to achieve to expand Metroid franchise in the future.  Either with this game or the next Metroid; however it is only the goal to EXPAND the franchise as it has not broken that number since the SNES days which is the era of Nintendo's summit of success !!!


Oh yes it did break the 2 million barrier. Ask Metroid Prime.

 

I think Reggie WOULD KNOW MORE THAN YOU, no offense.  The original Metroid Prime numbers are bloated beyond reason.  Some of the contributing factors are  1) It's a launch title 2) It was given away as a free game at retail as part of Nintendo's promotion to sell GCN 3)It was bundled together with the gamecube to launch Echoes 4) IT BECAME A PLAYERS CHOICE which means it sold at retail for a few years at budget price in contrast to the others!!!

links:

http://cube.ign.com/articles/527/527888p1.html

http://www.gamecubicle.com/news-nintendo_gamecube_free_game_bundle_promotion.htm

I think NCL official numbers of shipped and sold through copies of the game are more than enough, they don't to lie to investors do they? You need to research at least a minuscule bit if you want to argue. Use facts not fanboysim.

Also, going by your logic, Wii Sports only sold about 4 million.



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oni-link on 12 October 2010
trestres said:
oni-link said:
trestres said:
oni-link said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Demotruk said:

From the interviewer "It is likely that Reggie is referring to North American sales alone", presumably that was what it seemed in context, especially since Metroid regularly reaches 1.5 million worldwide.

Please there's no way he expected it to do that much in NA alone, if it will be the most underperfoming game of the gentat


That's just the author's translation of the video interview.  When I actually watched it I had a diffrent view of the interview starting at 2:55 this is said: “Metroid is a key franchise, and in our view really since the SNES Metroid, we haven’t broken through in terms of 1.5 - 2 millions units. That’s our bar. That’s the scale that we look at to say on a global basis this is effective.”

 

To me that means that number is the goal Nintendo hopes to achieve to expand Metroid franchise in the future.  Either with this game or the next Metroid; however it is only the goal to EXPAND the franchise as it has not broken that number since the SNES days which is the era of Nintendo's summit of success !!!


Oh yes it did break the 2 million barrier. Ask Metroid Prime.

 

I think Reggie WOULD KNOW MORE THAN YOU, no offense.  The original Metroid Prime numbers are bloated beyond reason.  Some of the contributing factors are  1) It's a launch title 2) It was given away as a free game at retail as part of Nintendo's promotion to sell GCN 3)It was bundled together with the gamecube to launch Echoes 4) IT BECAME A PLAYERS CHOICE which means it sold at retail for a few years at budget price in contrast to the others!!!

links:

http://cube.ign.com/articles/527/527888p1.html

http://www.gamecubicle.com/news-nintendo_gamecube_free_game_bundle_promotion.htm

I think NCL official numbers of shipped and sold through copies of the game are more than enough, they don't to lie to investors do they? You need to research at least a minuscule bit if you want to argue. Use facts not fanboysim.

Also, going by your logic, Wii Sports only sold about 4 million

 

I posted my links to where I believe the bloat of the original Prime came from...so yes I did A BIT of research!!! IF I WAS using Fanboyism I would be defending those original Prime numbers  instead of questioning them.  Honestly, Metroid HAS NEVER BEEN A HUGE SELLER!!! Even Reggie said that, and I think he knows more about Nintendo's current expectations than you, right?  Wii Sports numbers in VGC also include the bundle...do you think the game sold 80M units by itself at retail?  That would be ludicrous!!!  NCL official numbers are the number of copies pressed and shipped to retailers (bundle included)  not actua retail sales.  If that was the case MH:Tri would be over 2M instead of 1.65 that VGC has listed.

 

http://www.1up.com/news/lifetime-wii-software-sales-data   shows NCL numbers include bundle.



trestres on 12 October 2010
oni-link said:
trestres said:
oni-link said:
trestres said:
oni-link said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Demotruk said:

From the interviewer "It is likely that Reggie is referring to North American sales alone", presumably that was what it seemed in context, especially since Metroid regularly reaches 1.5 million worldwide.

Please there's no way he expected it to do that much in NA alone, if it will be the most underperfoming game of the gentat


That's just the author's translation of the video interview.  When I actually watched it I had a diffrent view of the interview starting at 2:55 this is said: “Metroid is a key franchise, and in our view really since the SNES Metroid, we haven’t broken through in terms of 1.5 - 2 millions units. That’s our bar. That’s the scale that we look at to say on a global basis this is effective.”

 

To me that means that number is the goal Nintendo hopes to achieve to expand Metroid franchise in the future.  Either with this game or the next Metroid; however it is only the goal to EXPAND the franchise as it has not broken that number since the SNES days which is the era of Nintendo's summit of success !!!


Oh yes it did break the 2 million barrier. Ask Metroid Prime.

 

I think Reggie WOULD KNOW MORE THAN YOU, no offense.  The original Metroid Prime numbers are bloated beyond reason.  Some of the contributing factors are  1) It's a launch title 2) It was given away as a free game at retail as part of Nintendo's promotion to sell GCN 3)It was bundled together with the gamecube to launch Echoes 4) IT BECAME A PLAYERS CHOICE which means it sold at retail for a few years at budget price in contrast to the others!!!

links:

http://cube.ign.com/articles/527/527888p1.html

http://www.gamecubicle.com/news-nintendo_gamecube_free_game_bundle_promotion.htm

I think NCL official numbers of shipped and sold through copies of the game are more than enough, they don't to lie to investors do they? You need to research at least a minuscule bit if you want to argue. Use facts not fanboysim.

Also, going by your logic, Wii Sports only sold about 4 million

 

I posted my links to where I believe the bloat of the original Prime came from...so yes I did A BIT of research!!! IF I WAS using Fanboyism I would be defending those original Prime numbers  instead of questioning them.  Honestly, Metroid HAS NEVER BEEN A HUGE SELLER!!! Even Reggie said that, and I think he knows more about Nintendo's current expectations than you, right?  Wii Sports numbers in VGC also include the bundle...do you think the game sold 80M units by itself at retail?  That would be ludicrous!!!  NCL official numbers are the number of copies pressed and shipped to retailers (bundle included)  not actua retail sales.  If that was the case MH:Tri would be over 2M instead of 1.65 that VGC has listed


Wrong, MHTri numbers include bundles.

Also, Nintendo counts every copy as sold, regardless of if it's bundled or not, you should do some research seriously.



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