lol at ANYONE that thinks  gt5 will outsell Halo Reach...literally LOL

lol at any one who thinks halo reach will outsell Gran Turismo 5

one jan 1st 2011 i will make damn sure to bump this and laugh at you for being delusional, as most playstation fans are...and guess what you will be nowhere to be found, after first week sales of Halo reach top 4 million, which will be enough to eclipse the entire rest of the year for gt5...then Halo reach finishes 2010 with over 7 million which gt5 will NEVER reach...so you will see, and then i will get the last laugh

so you think 1st jan 2011 both the games will stop selling........hehehehehehe

the final sales will only come after an year or two

"4m HALO reach will eclipse GT5 1st year sales"..............................lmao

never said 1st year sales, REREAD what i put, the entire rest of the year. and inever said they would stop selling, but GT5 will not ever eclipse 7m, and i believe Halo reach will sell over 15 million

The GT series is a long distance runner, Halo is a sprinter, get it?

Halo is a sprinter huh? thats why  halo 1 sold reall really well for 3 YEARS till Halo 2 came out, and Halo 2 sold really well even after the 360 came out, and Halo 3 sells well even NOW....and it is over 11 million sold, so wtf are you talking about

1.  I realise it wasn't realeased in America, hence the reason I added GT5P's America sales up til Week 32 to it's total.

2.  Again I realise that, but that could actually go in favor of GT4P, as it had a MUCH larger install base than the PS3 did 2 years ago. 

3.  Yes, which is why I only went to Week 32 for both releases.  We know that GT5 is being released much later than GT5P in comparison, but like I said, initial purchasers didn't know this would be the case.

4 & 5.  How does GT5P getting bundled a year later in Japan have any effect on my argument if I only went out to Week 32?  That's less than 8 months.  If you want to compare Others, we can.  GT4P sold 570K total in Others.  GT5P sold over 1 mil in Others in just 6 weeks.  Now it is true there were bundles, so if you wish we can subtract the PS3 HW sales in those same weeks.  VGC puts this at 517,874.  Which would give the standalone GT5P sales of 510,654K.  Now, this isn't completely fair for GT5P for a couple of reasons.  One, there were standalone PS3 units still being sold, as well as a 2nd "Movie Bundle."  And Second, I know those bundles were for EU, but I am not sure they were released for any other territory within Others.  So, if those are factored in, GT5P was most likely able to sell in 6 weeks ~ the same as GT4P did in about a year.

So my arguments stand.  And if you want to say that GT5P is not a good indication that GT5 will do well, then I would have to say that it shouldn't be used as an indication it will do poorly, either.  Not that you were doing so.

some more time on the site will make your predictions alot better,you are predicting just like all new users on this site do.after experiencing the trends and other factors deciding sales,you will get better

you never said 1st year but you  meant GT5 would never go above HALO reach sales earned till the end of 2010 lifetime

and you are forgetting that COD is a much bigger series now and it will surely cut Halo reach's sales

HALO 3 had very bad sales after in 2008 end and 2009 start,its sales pickedup  when MS started bundling it and after ODST's launch