A very Rolian take on this.

You forgot to mention a young Sean Connery at that as your avitar.

Also, you could have pointed out that the 3DS is the grandson of the Virtual Boy. In other words, by reintroducing a 3D console, Nintendo is living in 1995.

Mike from Morgantown

This is why you have to read a post and not just read the thread title.

Also, this is why this forum NEEDS some sort of props or kudos system. Because that post was just well done.

The underlined part. HAhahahahahahahahahahahaha. Sex, nudity and gore are only "edgy" if you're a 15 year guy or have the mindset of one. There is nothing remotely edgy OR mature gained by including any of those in a game.

In fact, the inclusion of them, especially in the gratuitous capacity that's so pervasive these days, belies more  a lack of maturity than the other way around. 

If anything, making 2D "family friendly" side-scrollers is edgy, since it's not in vogue and is in that sense working against market trends. 

is this supossed to be a joke thread?

I don't get it

Give people stablished franchises: Bwaaaaaa I want new franchises not the same old thing

Give people new IPs: Bwaaaaaa I want the beloved characters and Franchises I know and love.

Give people new IPs AND stablished franchises: Bwaaaaaa..........

1981- Parents came to america

1986- Brother is born

1992- I was born

1997- sister was born

.................Sounds like good times to me.

Oh well, I guess you don't consider books by Henry Miller, Brett Easton Ellis, or William S.  Burroughs to be very mature although many critics of literature would tend to disagree.

The edgiest games on Wii this gen remain Suda 51's because his are the only ones that really book the pervasive trend of all Wii games including the 2d platformers that they must all be palatable by all gamers and conducive to Wii sales to the casuals.

If you really want to talk about the edgy 2d platformers that were at this year's E3 they're not NSMWii, KEY, or DKCR, but Blade Kitten on PSN, Limbo on 360 and Rayman Origins.

Is that really how you're going to argue this?

The book part I mean. 

Find me a critic that acclaims a story or book by any of those authors and (a) says it's mature and (b) calls it so because of the inclusion of sex, violence, and gore.

Know what they say? Pulp is sex and violence, literature is love and death. Not that I fully agree with that, but it certainly embodies the critical spirit of the literary community. 

I mean, if you want to argue illogically, don't do it with books. Books are my thing. I read way more than I game. Hell, I write more than I game. 

i dont think there living in the past.

in the past especially snes days, nintendo had the best games, now thier main focus is on casual games yet still making thier own core titles like galaxy and zelda, but 1 or 2 games a year dont cut it anymore.

they certainly pulled out all the classics but i think they gameplay innovations they brought to the table prove that they are looking forward