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irstupid said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Nintendo gave us a more concrete 3D product with the 3DS. Sony's can be enjoyed whether in 3D or not. Microsoft doesn't create technology to be revered in gaming, so really their opinion means nothing in the matter. When they start making technology then I might be able to take them seriously. Microsoft is a software company. They need to focus on acquiring top notch developers before their investors pull out like they are planning on doing already.


the thing is I take Microsot more serious than Sony regarding 3D, due to microsoft not having a product for 3D.

Sony is using its fanboys to try and push 3D on all of us, just like they did with blu ray.  I hate being used by a company.  They are pushing these 3D games becuase they want us to buy their 3D tvs, and then their 3D blu ray movies and so on.  And that list there is one thing that is common, involves buying and buying new stuff. 


You have a point and Sony did use the gamers to save their format, but 3D is inevitable and Nintendo showed us with their handheld that it can be taken seriously.



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StokedUp said:

Thats one ignorant comment from the microsoft dude. 3D is obviously the future of technology, the way we've viewed videos, video games, and whatever else is on the TV is always evolving and getting better. First we had black and white tvs, Then we had colour TVs, then we had TVs that could display even more colours for a better picture, then we had digital broadcasts instead of analogue, then we had HD Picture quality TVs and now were moving into 3D. The movies at the cinemas are all into 3D now, SKY TV (the main "cable tv" in the UK) is launching its 3d range of channels. Infact its already launched it sports 3d channel and has pubs all around th UK screening 3D sports and people rate it.

Ill admit i think it'll take a little bit longer to get going as weve only just really moved into FULL HD but 3D will be something that all TVs will come with in the future and nearly all if not all video games will come with the feature aswell.

FFS THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE ORIGINAL QUOTE!

He isn't doubting 3D will one day be important, it really just isn't relevant in the home console market this generation.  Any reasonably impartial person can see this is a fact just looking at adoption rates for HDTV's.  It's going to be a lot harder getting people to upgrade to 3D as a extra feature too as HD only became a standard because it's nigh on impossible to buy a SDTV anymore.  Unless you put 3D into every TV from new it will be a long long time before it becomes a relevant technology to focus on, it doesn't help there is no clearly defined industry standard yet either.



badgenome said:
Reasonable said:

So long as you hold your head very still...

Not a problem. I don't have Parkinson's. It definitely beats paying thousands of dollars and having to wear dorky glasses.


You make classics after classics!



S.T.A.G.E. said:
irstupid said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Nintendo gave us a more concrete 3D product with the 3DS. Sony's can be enjoyed whether in 3D or not. Microsoft doesn't create technology to be revered in gaming, so really their opinion means nothing in the matter. When they start making technology then I might be able to take them seriously. Microsoft is a software company. They need to focus on acquiring top notch developers before their investors pull out like they are planning on doing already.


the thing is I take Microsot more serious than Sony regarding 3D, due to microsoft not having a product for 3D.

Sony is using its fanboys to try and push 3D on all of us, just like they did with blu ray.  I hate being used by a company.  They are pushing these 3D games becuase they want us to buy their 3D tvs, and then their 3D blu ray movies and so on.  And that list there is one thing that is common, involves buying and buying new stuff. 


You have a point and Sony did use the gamers to save their format, but 3D is inevitable and Nintendo showed us with their handheld that it can be taken seriously.


That is a Myth because even before HD DVD was released The Blu-Ray technology was already in consumer's hands 3 year's that's three year's prior to even the first HD DVD box hitting the consumer market. when all but One Consumer Electronic manuf. companies from the get go supported Blu-Ray over HD DVD's 2..that was Toshiba and Microsoft..it was not going to loose.

it would have been drawn out yes but there was no way HD DVD was going to win..as for the rumor that Warner BROS was paid off that also is just a myth because the WB was on the board of director's of Blu-Ray since the Blu-Ray founder's was started.

The Blu-ray Disc Founders (BDF) group was a collection of technology firms working together to develop and support the The Blu-ray Disc Founders was launched on May 20, 2002. As Blu-ray support grew progressively; announcements in 2004 added HP and dell which declared backing for the standard on January 12, 2004, and TDK on March 19, 2004. It announced that Blu-ray Disc Founders will shift to (BDA) in October on May 18, 2004. It shifted to Blu-ray Disc Association on October 4, 2004.

Sony was just one company in the lot of many that support Blu-Ray because the technology was already been on the consumer market since 2003.

that's the real reason why the technology already worked is one of the reason's Sony used it.

Blu-Ray was not just a sony format



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

Showing interest in 3D and adapting a few games to it is in no way the same thing as putting the full weight of your marketing and development target on 3D.

Heck they delayed GT for it, that just absurd...



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Nintendo is d0med confirmed.



Nintendo Network ID: Cheebee   3DS Code: 2320 - 6113 - 9046

 

The 3DS is a bit different from console 3D. The PS3 and the 360 still require a 3D tv and 3D glasses to get that effect in. Though some people question the technology itself, including film makers such as Francis Ford Coppola and Christopher Nolan (referencing 3D movies in this case). So it's hard to deny that MS has a good point.



Just like motion control is a gimmick, right? 

 

Fucking hell, you'd think Microsoft would learn. Personally. I'd buy a Nintendo system even if it was $2000, because it's freaking Nintendo. I owe them my childhood, or at least a big chunk of it. 



Reasonable said:

 


So long as you hold your head very still...

Actually, with the 3DS plus Sony pushing it plus the continued drive in cinemas MS risks being the odd one out if the masses really swing to it.

I'm not sold on 3D at home yet (cost plus technology) or on the move (with 3DS because you'll need to be still and stay in one position for it to work) but it looks like it's going to grow in popularity for sure.

Only Nintendos solution is ready for mass market adoption. How can Microsoft be left behind on 3D at home when adoption is still moving at a glacial pace and the technology isn't ready for primetime for gaming until the next generation of consoles is released?

Nintendo will likely outpace home 3D adoption by a factor of 10:1 over the next two years. Furthermore they will probably outpace the gaming aspect by at least 30:1.



Tease.

aren't a lot of pppl missing some points here?

First, with the use of word "idiot". Of course you will put down the oppositions tech "advantages" and pick any weakness possible. That is natural. So Reggie will call any alt 3d tech idiotic but he's talking from the high ground. The fact is a portable console is not competing directly with a home console so when a Wii has native 3d with no glasses, he then has a fair point.

Second, Sony call bad on MS motion, MS call bad on Sony 3d. MS called bad on Sony BD too. But, the comparison is not the same. BD was and is mandatory with the PS3 however some similar critiques are being used against 3d. 3d is not mandatory. It's completely optional. BD was criticised for the cost and the requirement to buy new 1080p TV's. Now that's a similarity but the main point is that 3d is "optional". We are not comparing apples with apples at all. Now the old arguments against BD seem anitquated. HD TV's are pretty well mass market and BD is just about there with mass market pricing.

Whether this 3d tech is a fad, a precursor to the ultimate goal of HD 3d for the home without glasses? Who know's? I can't see it going mainstream, if you ask me. I could always see BD going mainstream for so many reasons. Reasons like, the Hollywood studios wanting to reignite their movie income stream, BD being supported by every man and his dog besides Toshiba and of course MS (for obvious reasons -> it's idiotic because we don't supply it but the competitor does), and so forth.

I see 3d as a nice option on the PS3 if have the dosh. Going by all accounts, it's pretty damn cool with KZ3 or GT5. I think it will hit a niche market but probably no more. Heck, maybe it will gain traction in the arcade? Probaly not. I just can't see it going mass market. That I agree with. If I had lots of money, I'm there :). But using words like "idiotic" simply because it's not in your spec of products is a bit childish if you ask me.

I don't necessarily think Kinetic is that great but at the same time, it's from idiotic. As far as an App interface goes, it seemed pretty cool.