By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Well I did enjoy the sorcery demonstration, but it's no Zelda haha.  I mean it had stage issues but the game didn't have issues.  There are lots of things that try to be Zelda but it doesn't make them Zelda.  

I guess if you were more intrigued by it then that's your opinion, but if I had to put money down on something then I'd go with Zelda.  We just didn't get to see much of Zelda to really talk to much about it.  Nintendo despite demoing it and showing a trailer for it, are still keeping much of the game, the world, the story, and the main things about it a mystery.  



Around the Network
theprof00 said:
RolStoppable said:
richardhutnik said:
theprof00 said:

Is it just me, or did sorcery actually look cooler than zelda?

Not only did the wiimote completely fail numerous times, but it was zelda like we've seen it a thousand times.

Sorcery looked pretty cool, it worked well, was thoughtful, and had an interesting atmosphere.

Oh, also sorcery had a release date! ZING!

Seriously though, what did you think?

I guess if you don't own a Wii, it is good to talk yourself into believing Sorcery is superior.

By far the best response to the topic at hand. Well played.

talking is not needed. everyone but the most devout zelda fans could see that. Sorcery is not likely to be a better game, in fact it's impossible. But today it mopped the floor with zelda.

Well, one would expect another game to win against Zelda, when Zelda happened to have issues with the controls during the presentation.



Rpruett said:
Metallicube said:

Sorcery looked good and all, but come on.. Better than Zelda? ZELDA??

That's like saying Little Big Planet is the better platformer than NSMB Wii.

The powers looked fun to use, but the environments and enemies looked bland. It's like Harry Potter but a bit more dark.


LBP is the better platformer and quite a few people would agree.

On here, if you did a survey for that, I am sure it would come down to the ratio of PS3 owners to Wii owners.  XBox owners might jump in to add additional noise though.



richardhutnik said:
theprof00 said:
RolStoppable said:
richardhutnik said:
theprof00 said:

Is it just me, or did sorcery actually look cooler than zelda?

Not only did the wiimote completely fail numerous times, but it was zelda like we've seen it a thousand times.

Sorcery looked pretty cool, it worked well, was thoughtful, and had an interesting atmosphere.

Oh, also sorcery had a release date! ZING!

Seriously though, what did you think?

I guess if you don't own a Wii, it is good to talk yourself into believing Sorcery is superior.

By far the best response to the topic at hand. Well played.

talking is not needed. everyone but the most devout zelda fans could see that. Sorcery is not likely to be a better game, in fact it's impossible. But today it mopped the floor with zelda.

Well, one would expect another game to win against Zelda, when Zelda happened to have issues with the controls during the presentation.

Tell me what was interesting about zelda.



theprof00 said:
richardhutnik said:
theprof00 said:
RolStoppable said:
richardhutnik said:
theprof00 said:

Is it just me, or did sorcery actually look cooler than zelda?

Not only did the wiimote completely fail numerous times, but it was zelda like we've seen it a thousand times.

Sorcery looked pretty cool, it worked well, was thoughtful, and had an interesting atmosphere.

Oh, also sorcery had a release date! ZING!

Seriously though, what did you think?

I guess if you don't own a Wii, it is good to talk yourself into believing Sorcery is superior.

By far the best response to the topic at hand. Well played.

talking is not needed. everyone but the most devout zelda fans could see that. Sorcery is not likely to be a better game, in fact it's impossible. But today it mopped the floor with zelda.

Well, one would expect another game to win against Zelda, when Zelda happened to have issues with the controls during the presentation.

Tell me what was interesting about zelda.

Seriously why are you dragging this on? You are just making this pissing contest even worse. 

It is like Zelda can't be interesting to people, and sorcery has to be on top.



 

Around the Network

Zelda vs Sorcery. Sorry no. They aren't close enough. I can understand the comparison as they are supposed to both be 1:1 action control under the same E3. The idea fails though. The orientation of both games are too different. Onces supposed to be about Magic spells the other is a Hero action game.

Sorcery should be compared against the Harry Potter series on the Wii. In this comparison it's more equal in values. However there is still a signifigant difference.

Harry Potter is not a generic adventure. It's more a generic adventure game. Theres a lot less combat than Sorcery. HP focuses far more on simple puzzles and exploration.  Sorcery is about killing monsters and using items to get to unique places. I would put Sorcery more as a any other game like Ratchet and Clank.

However we aren't here to determine if Sorcery is better than HP either. Sorcery is supposed to be an important game for Move. In all straight forwardness. When it comes to Move Sorcery SUCKED. The demonstration was more about features of the game than Move implementation. Ok whatever. Secondly spells. WTH? Sorcery has the game go on pause so you can access the menu with the Move pointer? FAIL.

HP Strength was that Spell Casting was meant to be immersive while HP Wii could use some tweaking the game overall did a fantastic job of spell casting. There were no menus to cast spells. They were about gestures. Levitation was f'ing awesome. Repario, fire, stupify.... none of them need to be selected from a menu. They were all simple gestures.

Sorcery already looks to be a way better platformer than HP, but as a showcase game for Move. Well it's 5 years behind. Actually even worse at least game like Godfather BE and HP had good'ish motion control. oh having a wand match your on screen wand doesn't make the game good. much like a spastic Link how he was holding his sword in a bizzar manner.



Squilliam: On Vgcharts its a commonly accepted practice to twist the bounds of plausibility in order to support your argument or agenda so I think its pretty cool that this gives me the precedent to say whatever I damn well please.

richardhutnik said:
Rpruett said:
Metallicube said:

Sorcery looked good and all, but come on.. Better than Zelda? ZELDA??

That's like saying Little Big Planet is the better platformer than NSMB Wii.

The powers looked fun to use, but the environments and enemies looked bland. It's like Harry Potter but a bit more dark.


LBP is the better platformer and quite a few people would agree.

On here, if you did a survey for that, I am sure it would come down to the ratio of PS3 owners to Wii owners.  XBox owners might jump in to add additional noise though.

Possibly.  I would say there is generally a good amount of bias (Especially in single console owners).  I'll take metacritic ratings as a backing to my personal opinion (And you will probably take sales) although I believe reviewers again are a little lessed biased in this regard since they don't have a horse in the race. 

LBP can be any type of platformer you wanted it to be..Which is what makes it so great.   The content on it is practically never-ending.   The same can't be said for NSMB.  If you played ones on SNES you will have essentially played this one. 



theprof00 said:

Is it just me, or did sorcery actually look cooler than zelda?

Not only did the wiimote completely fail numerous times, but it was zelda like we've seen it a thousand times.

Sorcery looked pretty cool, it worked well, was thoughtful, and had an interesting atmosphere.

Oh, also sorcery had a release date! ZING!

Seriously though, what did you think?

i think i would like to hear the comments on Zelda if it was the same game but presented as a third party title with a different looking character.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

theprof00 said:
RolStoppable said:

I just watched the Sorcery gameplay on youtube. So that's the game that makes people go "wow".

It didn't really "wow" me as much to say that right after watchin zelda, it seemed to have many of the same elements, but with a different setting, abilities, and tricks as well as puzzles and expandability.

The two seem very similar, and honestly I was very disappointed with zelda. I expected a lot more. Nothing has changed, and the presentation was nearly a disaster.

With sorcery, it feels like the kind of change zelda should have gotten. It's something different.


Ok dude. Whoah, lets go back to what you said. The kind of change Zelda should have gotten? WHAT?! Are you serious?! I bet you right now Socrcery wont be getting 9's when it come out. Zelda's presentation was a disaster? Why? Because of some technical difficulties note because the games is bad. Zelda > Sorcery IN EVERY WAY. Graphics, gameplay you name it bub.

So if you think Zelda should have gotten the kind of change similar to game like Sorcery, that would be a true disaster. Sorcery does not = Zelda.



NINTENDO

nintendo forever . . .

theprof00 said:
richardhutnik said:

Well, one would expect another game to win against Zelda, when Zelda happened to have issues with the controls during the presentation.

Tell me what was interesting about zelda.

I have seen more on Zelda now, than people have seen regarding Agent.  So, why are people all pumped about the game Agent?  Do you want to know what I see about Zelda?

* It is Zelda.  Zelda is one of the best franchises ever.

* The controls looked interested, in what it is trying to do.  I account the gltiches that happened today at the show.

* The sword hacking and slashing looks like fun.  The whole entire change how you slash the enemy plant depending on how it opens its mouth is interesting.  Also, the new weapons look like fun.

Anyhow, if you don't know what is interesting about Zelda, then you aren't a fan, which is fine.  Maybe you secretly want something LIKE Zelda, but a bit different, which maybe Sorcery fits into.   Anyhow, there are people like this, usually tied to being a fan of a given console.  Individuals like Selnor, for example, will end up trumpeting every single 360 exclusive as being better to everything on every other console.  Even money he would say Fable III trounces Zelda also.  Why?  Well it is on the 360 first and foremost.