Not the press, I mean REAL gamers.

Last time I checkd the ''press'' were real gamers...honestly...they are good enough to try everything and give you info and feedback about it but in your world they dont count as gamers?

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/109/1097388p1.html

Guess folks will say this is fake too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWJhV2Awl98&feature=related

1:11 man's arm doesn't reach the same orientation.
1:17 man's arm is above his head, vieo shows shoulder level.
1:19 avatar's hand drops faster than his hand does. Keep replaying and pausing right after it stops painting. At one point, the man's hand is still at an upward angle wheras the avatar's hand is already on a downward angle. I can post a screenshot if you need.
1:54 girl's character ducks before she does, at the same point, boys character jumps before he does. If you pause it, he's still in the air after the avatar landed. among other obviousness.
seconds later it switches to a completely different game, which is not only not possible, but his entire video performs before he does.

0:18 girl's character ducks before she does

then dancing game where you don't control the character anyway, it just determines if you made the move properly, just like in just dance, then the lightsaber

that already happened and it was complete garbage. worse than the ms conference. check out destructoid for a rather amusing cover by sterling, the fat bastard.

what about games they showed at the conference?

As far as I'm aware, the big Kinect thing was last night with the CDS show. 

@ OP

That is definitely faked.  You can see the cursor not only appear before he moves his hand, but it also moves slowly upward before he gets a chance to react.  He then quickly raises his hand to catch up with it.  Let's be hoest guys, there has always been a lot of smoke and mirror tricks surrounding Kinect.  The only real game people had got to play was Ricochet until just recently.  And what ever happened to Milo?

@selnor

For 360 fans who have been pushing Kinect as "the new wave in gaming" and being able to offer a "gaming experience found nowhere else", you can't honestly tell me with a straight face that this has turned out better than you had expected it last year when it was revealed.  Where are these new gaming experiences?  Where are the innovative games?  All 15 launch titles have been announced, and sorry, but none of them offer anything different from Move/Wii.

one of the games was wii sports resort in fact!

Not fake.  But you can see lag in that vid.  As well as the fact that the game is incredibly limited in terms of gameplay.  No crazy stunts like in SSX Tricky.  This is really no different from AntiGrav on the PS2.  Where is all this innovation in gameplay that Kinect was supposed to bring?

Most of them looked pretty live to me. And if they had someone back stage playing along incase something happend etc soo be it. Hell even when Uc 2 was being shown off they had a guy in the back playing along just incase something happend.

Guessing your one of the guys hoping on that ''Gears 3 was fake'' as well.

Sony will be doing the same thing msft did...have back ups...same for ninty...it's always been like that.

From what I have heard: half of the demonstrations were faked, and other half had major tracking issues.