If this stuff is really pre-recorded or whatever, then that's a red flag. 

I'll believe it when I see regular people playing with it.

I didnt want to get in this but the starwars looked iffy.. I'd like to make a gif of that guy jumping at the end. Seriously WTF.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7Dup9kXlxk&feature=player_embedded

watched the video and I didn't see what you were talking about.

Your gonna have to post the video that makes you think that the demo was faked. 

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1:24.

The hand appears on the screen before he starts moving his hand. However, if you count that the camera pulling back put his hand on screen whie it was still down at his waist, he is turning to the left, so the initial cursor should be moving left, not right, as it does on the screen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suR-aXTNuKc

While I dont think the Kinect demo was faked, but anyone who thinks that Forza 4 gameplay will look like those photos is absolutely batshit crazy

ok, i was looking at the wrong part of the video, I thought that you guys were talking about the racing part of the demo. 

After looking at it, it is possible, but it just depends upon at what point kinect detects his hand. 

not ingame yea, but gallery wise, sure.

Forza 4 will look amazing no doubt. Just hope it looks on par or better than GT5. 

agreed. It's not absolute, but it's very iffy, and perhaps mistakenly reinforced by all the fake footage last night. Still, he's turning one way and the hand goes the other way...it's too close to call.. Maybe if the pictures were closer together and a different angle or something...

Ok, I want to chime in about that.  What I remember seeing was a cut scene where Vader comes out.  At the end, your sword raises up.   In the video, you then see a guy's hand then raise. 

Can I ask a simple question here:  How does one know that the entire thing was faked (pre-recorded), or if it wasn't just the end of a cut scene into action?

because the action happens on screen before the "player" performs the actions.

Even if it was just him acting out a cutscene, that's not something you should do if you're advertising a controller-less product. That would be artsy in any other circumstance except this one, because that is the product.