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dtewi said:

Hike the PS3's price up to 700, delay GT5 to 2020, rename Move "Kunect", and only showcase two games, both of which are Eyetoy spinoffs.

But, that probably won't happen.


Bahahahaha funny shit.



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i actually think nintendo may win just because of zelda..

but then sony got gran turismo 5555555555555555555 release date :p



infamous23 said:
dtewi said:
infamous23 said:

      Well, I can give some proof from today's Microsoft show.  They didn't  announce either of these games coming to the 360 today:  Agent, Final Fantasy XIV, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, or Kingdom Hearts 3 meaning all these games are still most likely PS3 exclusives.  And there will be many more Japanese developed exclusives headed the PS3's way.

What we already have enough information to be able to predict reasonably well for Sony's conference:

Sony will show wonderful core games at their show including The Last Guardian which will wow all the critics and their not going to make the mistake of devoting their entire motion control segment to casual games.

Plus, their presentation of core games will be much longer than Microsoft's was today.  The presentation of core games definitelywon't take a backseat to trying to win the casual crowd at Sony's show tomorrow.

Nintendo's going to need to spend very little time talking about their Vitality Sensor wares and Wii series games and quite a bit of time announcing sequels in all their most long awaited core sequels including Donkey Kong, Kid Icarus, and the Mother series if they don't want to come in a distant second place this year.

I'm sorry... but so many of these ideas are ludicrous beyond belief.



I would like to know why they're ludicrous.  Sony said last year that they consider the stuff that Nintendo and now Microsoft have done with motion control to be no brainers on how to use the technology and that they were interested in using it instead to enhance core games.  And why shouldn't they?

Everybody seems to think you get more sales these days by going after the casuals, but Sony sold 250 Million consoles with PS1, PS2, and PSP by having the best core games on the market and not the most number of casual titles.

Also, they've fought back against Wii and DS with PS3 and PSP in Japan by having the best core games on the market there.

Sony will show 5 to 7 core games that feature Move controls.  It's true they might have a couple of token games like a dance game or a sports game (even though they said they were opposed to them last year), but they're Move games will be sequels or remakes like Resident Evil 5 Move, Heavenly Sword 2, Infamous 2, and Little Big Planet 2, that will implement the new controls into this year's finest core games instead of all the gimmicky casual products that Microsoft spent an hour discussing today instead of having core game developers show off their new titles while Sony will go back to gaming's roots which traditionally is what people watch E3 to see:  rpgs, adventure titles, Gran Turismo 5, etc.

Eh. The PS 1 and 2 had the  most casual software of all their generations. You know, because they were winning. And the winner gets the most, if not all, schovelware. Three generations in a row, and in a 'geek' way before that. 



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Stefan.De.Machtige said:
infamous23 said:
dtewi said:
infamous23 said:

      Well, I can give some proof from today's Microsoft show.  They didn't  announce either of these games coming to the 360 today:  Agent, Final Fantasy XIV, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, or Kingdom Hearts 3 meaning all these games are still most likely PS3 exclusives.  And there will be many more Japanese developed exclusives headed the PS3's way.

What we already have enough information to be able to predict reasonably well for Sony's conference:

Sony will show wonderful core games at their show including The Last Guardian which will wow all the critics and their not going to make the mistake of devoting their entire motion control segment to casual games.

Plus, their presentation of core games will be much longer than Microsoft's was today.  The presentation of core games definitelywon't take a backseat to trying to win the casual crowd at Sony's show tomorrow.

Nintendo's going to need to spend very little time talking about their Vitality Sensor wares and Wii series games and quite a bit of time announcing sequels in all their most long awaited core sequels including Donkey Kong, Kid Icarus, and the Mother series if they don't want to come in a distant second place this year.

I'm sorry... but so many of these ideas are ludicrous beyond belief.



I would like to know why they're ludicrous.  Sony said last year that they consider the stuff that Nintendo and now Microsoft have done with motion control to be no brainers on how to use the technology and that they were interested in using it instead to enhance core games.  And why shouldn't they?

Everybody seems to think you get more sales these days by going after the casuals, but Sony sold 250 Million consoles with PS1, PS2, and PSP by having the best core games on the market and not the most number of casual titles.

Also, they've fought back against Wii and DS with PS3 and PSP in Japan by having the best core games on the market there.

Sony will show 5 to 7 core games that feature Move controls.  It's true they might have a couple of token games like a dance game or a sports game (even though they said they were opposed to them last year), but they're Move games will be sequels or remakes like Resident Evil 5 Move, Heavenly Sword 2, Infamous 2, and Little Big Planet 2, that will implement the new controls into this year's finest core games instead of all the gimmicky casual products that Microsoft spent an hour discussing today instead of having core game developers show off their new titles while Sony will go back to gaming's roots which traditionally is what people watch E3 to see:  rpgs, adventure titles, Gran Turismo 5, etc.

Eh. The PS 1 and 2 had the  most casual software of all their generations. You know, because they were winning. And the winner gets the most, if not all, schovelware. Three generations in a row, and in a 'geek' way before that. 

Still, if you look at the list of best sellers for PS1 and PS2, you will find very few titles that were considered shovelware by the critics to be among main system sellers on the system unlike a more current system where if you look at a list of its highest critically approved titles most of them have sold very little while the system's sales have been mainly due to lower-rated titles.

It creates an environment where on PS1 and PS2 most developers had to do their best in many genres (hence the reason why there are 500 green PS2 games at Metacritic) to try to compete for sales meanwhile on the other system there's really not much incentive for most developers to try to release anything more than copies of the handful of games that have high sales on the system. 



While I agree microsoft presentation was horrible. I disagree with a lot of the assumptions you make about sony.



 

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Not to the eyes of most people here, but I doubt they can have a better one than Nintendo so its all moot.



Tease.

Xen said:
badgenome said:

They could go on stage, remotely YLOD everyone's console, and laugh about it for two hours, and it would just about be a tie.

Yow win the thread!

I agree!

badgenome said:
noname2200 said:
dtewi said:
infamous23 said:

No.  Sorry haters, but Sony's conference will rock!

Your proof.


Rock Band 3 will be shown off there.  Maybe.

With the other two members of the Beatles, I hope!

you win second place too!



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

Well Microsofts conference wasnt that bad so, yes they can do worse.   You obviously missed E3 2006



makingmusic476 said:
d21lewis said:

Let's stop for a moment and think about those great E3's of years long gone.  What made them so great?  New harware like the DS and PSP?  New games like Metal Gear Solid 4 and Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess being shown for the first time?  Megaton show-stealing announcements like FF13 or MGS Rising going multi-plat?  Epic fails like the Wii Music announcement or the PS3's price point?

It seems like we only remember the epic highs or the dismal lows when it comes to E3.  Microsoft had a solid showing without really hitting us with that one big surprise that set the internet on fire.  Because of that, many think that the whole show sucked.  We get a re-design, Gears, Halo, etc. along with some great new potential, and people aren't satisfied.  I don't get it.

Sony will probably have a pretty solid showing, too.  Nintendo should, as well.  What are people expecting from these 5 years old consoles?  The good games are coming.  The potential is there.  E3 is just a glimpse into the future of gaming.  We need to quit making it into something it's not.  I look forward to the other showings and to this week, in general.

I think the main issue people have with it is the lack of new game anouncements combined with an emphasis on Kinect.

Last E3 Microsoft announced Halo: Reach, Crackdown 2, and a couple of other games.  It's already been a year since then, and they've announced what, Fable at GamesCom and Gears a couple of months ago?  People were probably expecting a good number of announcements for upcoming games to flesh out Microsoft's late 2010 and 2011 line up, and instead they got a CGI teaser for a game with a no name and Kinect Sports.

Agreed.  In fact... what does MS have lined up for next year then?  I makes me wonder if the next Xbox is maybe on the horizon for 2011?



sony will do good. it will have the most software for the core market and their technology works ,microsoft used prerecorded demostrations .

but nintendo may steal the show if the 3ds its really awesome technology and they will likely show zelda unless sony teases a PSP2.

sony have so much stuff, that wont be on the show but mentioned later that some won't get the hype they deserve.