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disolitude said:

Did anyone think LCD was going to be top dog when it comes to 3D? LED's even? I've had a 3D LCD for a year now (22 inch viewsonic 120 hz monitor) and these new TV's have the same limitations as my monitor. The greater the depth the more ghosting you see...

If you want the best 3D display this year Panasonic plasma is your answer...

Sure, you may have to throw away the glasses that come with the TV as they are god awful(they allow way too much light, and purchase Xpand 103 set for 150 a pop...but it is still worth it.

If you want to save money and cant affor the panasonic plasma...Samsung plasma > any LCD when it comes to 3D.

HOw mcujh?



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Slimebeast said:
disolitude said:

Did anyone think LCD was going to be top dog when it comes to 3D? LED's even? I've had a 3D LCD for a year now (22 inch viewsonic 120 hz monitor) and these new TV's have the same limitations as my monitor. The greater the depth the more ghosting you see...

If you want the best 3D display this year Panasonic plasma is your answer...

Sure, you may have to throw away the glasses that come with the TV as they are god awful(they allow way too much light, and purchase Xpand 103 set for 150 a pop...but it is still worth it.

If you want to save money and cant affor the panasonic plasma...Samsung plasma > any LCD when it comes to 3D.

HOw mcujh?


I demoed this over at best buy early last week...

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic - VIERA / 50" Class / 1080p / 600Hz / 3D Plasma HDTV/9825367.p?id=1218179420947&skuId=9825367

Almost no ghosting, excellent sharpness and great pop out/immersion. And thats their mid range model. I can just imagine how good the high end will be. Much better than Samsung LED and Sony LCD I checked out few months ago.



leo-j said:

that's the lowest $2000 model..

 

the same is said for the lowest samsung model, your topic should have said it's there lower spec 3d tv..


No that TV shown is the 55in and goes for $4000.

Only two of the models—the 52-inch and 60-inch Bravia XBR-HX909 series—feature integrated 3D right out of the box. The other five range from 40 to 55-inches and cost between $2100 and $4000. That's before you throw in the Sony active shutter glasses for $150 a pop and $50 sync transmitter that make the sets 3D-capable.

A Samsung 3Dtv LCD 55in can be found for: $2969.99

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung-55"Class/1080p/240Hz/3DLED-LCD HDTV/9783533.p?skuId=9783533&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=9783533&ref=06&loc=01&id=1218173780094



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Slimebeast said:
DirtyP2002 said:

3D will make sense for the Xbox 3 and PS4. I think you have to design hardware especially for it and write some software for it. A firmware update is not enough. I am looking forward to the stuff MS has to offer about this straight to your eye thing

What's that?


http://gizmodo.com/5561095/microsoft-creating-3d-effect-by-shooting-images-straight-into-your-eye

there you go darling.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

disolitude said:
Slimebeast said:
disolitude said:

Did anyone think LCD was going to be top dog when it comes to 3D? LED's even? I've had a 3D LCD for a year now (22 inch viewsonic 120 hz monitor) and these new TV's have the same limitations as my monitor. The greater the depth the more ghosting you see...

If you want the best 3D display this year Panasonic plasma is your answer...

Sure, you may have to throw away the glasses that come with the TV as they are god awful(they allow way too much light, and purchase Xpand 103 set for 150 a pop...but it is still worth it.

If you want to save money and cant affor the panasonic plasma...Samsung plasma > any LCD when it comes to 3D.

HOw mcujh?


I demoed this over at best buy early last week...

- VIERA / 50" Class / 1080p / 600Hz / 3D Plasma HDTV/9825367.p?id=1218179420947&skuId=9825367http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic

Almost no ghosting, excellent sharpness and great pop out/immersion. And thats their mid range model. I can just imagine how good the high end will be. Much better than Samsung LED and Sony LCD I checked out few months ago.

We dont have that in Sweden, not that exact model number.

Is this the same or kinda the same?

Panasonic Viera TX-P50VT20E

http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=561639



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DirtyP2002 said:
Slimebeast said:
DirtyP2002 said:

3D will make sense for the Xbox 3 and PS4. I think you have to design hardware especially for it and write some software for it. A firmware update is not enough. I am looking forward to the stuff MS has to offer about this straight to your eye thing

What's that?


http://gizmodo.com/5561095/microsoft-creating-3d-effect-by-shooting-images-straight-into-your-eye

there you go darling.

Thanks man. Wow, that sounds very advanced. Eye tracking?

That must be at least 10 years into the future. Maybe buy a shutter-glasses 3D TV to have in the meantime?



Slimebeast said:

We dont have that in Sweden, not that exact model number.

Is this the same or kinda the same?

Panasonic Viera TX-P50VT20E

http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=561639

In north america we have TC-P50VT20, which is identical to TC-P50VT25. I dont know about that one. As long as its hulHD3D (1080p) it should be the exact same screen and 3D engine...



disolitude said:
Slimebeast said:
 

We dont have that in Sweden, not that exact model number.

Is this the same or kinda the same?

Panasonic Viera TX-P50VT20E

http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=561639

In north america we have TC-P50VT20, which is identical to TC-P50VT25. I dont know about that one. As long as its hulHD3D (1080p) it should be the exact same screen and 3D engine...

Yeah we have TX instead of the TC on the Panasonic models. I have no idea what that stands for.
Same with the "E" in the end, dunno what that is.

"hulHD3D" u probably mean full HD 3D? Yeah the P50VT20E is full HD and 3-D ready, shutter glasses. Seems it costs about $3000 here. Should I buy it?

Or this one?
Samsung PS50C7705
http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=589913   ~$2500

Or this LED 3DTV? You are familiar with this one, yes?
Samsung UE46C7705   
http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=585045   ~$2500





Slimebeast said:
disolitude said:
Slimebeast said:
 

We dont have that in Sweden, not that exact model number.

Is this the same or kinda the same?

Panasonic Viera TX-P50VT20E

http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=561639

In north america we have TC-P50VT20, which is identical to TC-P50VT25. I dont know about that one. As long as its hulHD3D (1080p) it should be the exact same screen and 3D engine...

Yeah we have TX instead of the TC on the Panasonic models. I have no idea what that stands for.
Same with the "E" in the end, dunno what that is.

"hulHD3D" u probably mean full HD 3D? Yeah the P50VT20E is full HD and 3-D ready, shutter glasses. Seems it costs about $3000 here. Should I buy it?

Or this one?
Samsung PS50C7705
http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=589913   ~$2500

Or this LED 3DTV? You are familiar with this one, yes?
Samsung UE46C7705   
http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=585045   ~$2500



I honestly would buy the Panasonic plasma if I was in the market. Its the only diplay that I saw that jumped out at me and looked better than my Samsung 3D DLP. It also could be the movie it was playing... They are not really allowing for a fair comparison in stores since they are playing different things on different TVs. Samsung plasma was playing Monters vs Aliens, Sony is playing chance of meatballs and Wipeout HD videos and Panasonic demo is playing alice in wonderland and sone other #D generated cartoon...forget which one.

Otherwise that Samsung plasma you listed  should be good if its comparable with the PN50C7000 model that I saw them sell here. It seemed slightly worse than the Panny, but it should he 500 bucks cheaper. Advantages samsung has is that it has 2D to 3D conversion, which is othing to brag about but could work nicely with a few games/movies. Also it has much better 3D glasses which are made by Xpand. Pannasonic ones are made by RealD and I honestly dont know what they were thinking.

In other news, Sony is completely gone bonkers in terms of pricing these TVs. This is the pricing of 3D TV's in Canada... Notice the 2 that stick out in terms of price/size ratio?

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/category/3d-tvs/28805.aspx?path=b1c529420cbdf6706148de97a4a6954cen01



disolitude said:
Slimebeast said:
disolitude said:
Slimebeast said:
 

We dont have that in Sweden, not that exact model number.

Is this the same or kinda the same?

Panasonic Viera TX-P50VT20E

http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=561639

In north america we have TC-P50VT20, which is identical to TC-P50VT25. I dont know about that one. As long as its hulHD3D (1080p) it should be the exact same screen and 3D engine...

Yeah we have TX instead of the TC on the Panasonic models. I have no idea what that stands for.
Same with the "E" in the end, dunno what that is.

"hulHD3D" u probably mean full HD 3D? Yeah the P50VT20E is full HD and 3-D ready, shutter glasses. Seems it costs about $3000 here. Should I buy it?

Or this one?
Samsung PS50C7705
http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=589913   ~$2500

Or this LED 3DTV? You are familiar with this one, yes?
Samsung UE46C7705   
http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=585045   ~$2500



I honestly would buy the Panasonic plasma if I was in the market. Its the only diplay that I saw that jumped out at me and looked better than my Samsung 3D DLP. It also could be the movie it was playing... They are not really allowing for a fair comparison in stores since they are playing different things on different TVs. Samsung plasma was playing Monters vs Aliens, Sony is playing chance of meatballs and Wipeout HD videos and Panasonic demo is playing alice in wonderland and sone other #D generated cartoon...forget which one.

Otherwise that Samsung plasma you listed  should be good if its comparable with the PN50C7000 model that I saw them sell here. It seemed slightly worse than the Panny, but it should he 500 bucks cheaper. Advantages samsung has is that it has 2D to 3D conversion, which is othing to brag about but could work nicely with a few games/movies. Also it has much better 3D glasses which are made by Xpand. Pannasonic ones are made by RealD and I honestly dont know what they were thinking.

In other news, Sony is completely gone bonkers in terms of pricing these TVs. This is the pricing of 3D TV's in Canada... Notice the 2 that stick out in terms of price/size ratio?

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/category/3d-tvs/28805.aspx?path=b1c529420cbdf6706148de97a4a6954cen01

You saw it at Futureshop at Toronto Life Center or Toronto AMC theatre mall...whatever it is called. 
(I am not stalking you), but that one is the best I seen. Given I would give the technology few more years, before picking it up.