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darthdevidem01 on 10 June 2010
MaxwellGT2000 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
SaviorX said:

I read this and my eyes widened.

If my hair was grabbable, I was going to literally pull it out. For FUCKS SAKE


LOL calm down man.

Honestly I found this hilarious, it's as if the other Wii Ware and Judgement wasn't really dark and brooding.  I admit the first 2 on the DS weren't but the third really tried to go back to the roots and was praised for it.  (also for the sales declining, that's kinda what sequels do, it's REALLY rare that a sequel sells better)

Poor choice of words, though I am a Castlevania fan, I'm not really caring about this game, I hope it turns out to be good since most 3D Castlevania games don't, but also making it into Bayonetta Castlevania edition isn't to my personal liking.  I just don't think action is a good route for the series especially if they're trying to appeal to the fans, if not then why keep the name?  Why not have the same theme but call it something else, I felt the same way about judgement though I was more okay with that simply because fighters are fighters and it's always fun to be like "well ___________ can beat _______!!!" it's great for "settling" those debates.

Keeping my eyes open but not expecting anything much like every 3D Castlevania since the N64 lol

But Kojima is supervising this one.


That's an issue, because his "visions" typically haven't jived with me after MGS1.  I feel he has this effect I see with more creative people myself included, since I first saw this effect watching George Lucas's input in the original trilogy vs new trilogy I call it the Lucas effect.  Essentially a creative director can make an amazing product and it fit his imagination BUT the man needs people around him to channel that creative energy instead of him going hog ass wild doing whatever he feels like adding anything he wants because some things just don't work.

You need those down to Earth guys to tell you things like JARJAR IS THE MOST RETARDED AND UNINTENTIONALLY RACIST CHARACTER EVER CREATED!  They tell you things like HAVING RAIDEN AS A MAIN CHARACTER IS STUPID AND PEOPLE WILL HATE IT ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU MAKE HIM NUDE!  And finally that SPREADING THE STORY OF KINGDOM HEARTS ACROSS DIFFERENT PLATFORMS AND MAKING SIDE STORIES THAT MAKE THE OVERALL PLOT CONVOLUTED IS RETARDED!  Sorry but those are three prime examples of creative directors having too much freedom and not enough people telling them their ideas are retarded, thus making a better end product.

I agree on 1 of your examples, not the other 2 (Raiden and Jar Jar), neither Raiden or Jar Jar deserved 5% of the hate they got.

How was jar jar racist though?



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Maynard_Tool on 10 June 2010

Aaaaaaand here we go... again.



03/10/09 HUGE day in my life:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=63437&page=1

LordTheNightKnight on 10 June 2010
Train wreck said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

"Im sure they are going off the success of Kojima and MGS4 and not the DS titles and the one failed Wii title. "

http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=castlevania

No, you're just showing you haven't looked at the sales of ANY Castlevania game.

Can you fill in all those zero's for us so we can get a better sense of sales?  That would be helpful.

Im sure Konami wouldnt bother making over 25 different castlevania games over theses last 20 years if the sales blew.


I didn't claim their sales blew. I just pointed out using a series that sells a hell of a lot more is a BS comparison.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

LordTheNightKnight on 10 June 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
SaviorX said:

I read this and my eyes widened.

If my hair was grabbable, I was going to literally pull it out. For FUCKS SAKE


LOL calm down man.

Honestly I found this hilarious, it's as if the other Wii Ware and Judgement wasn't really dark and brooding.  I admit the first 2 on the DS weren't but the third really tried to go back to the roots and was praised for it.  (also for the sales declining, that's kinda what sequels do, it's REALLY rare that a sequel sells better)

Poor choice of words, though I am a Castlevania fan, I'm not really caring about this game, I hope it turns out to be good since most 3D Castlevania games don't, but also making it into Bayonetta Castlevania edition isn't to my personal liking.  I just don't think action is a good route for the series especially if they're trying to appeal to the fans, if not then why keep the name?  Why not have the same theme but call it something else, I felt the same way about judgement though I was more okay with that simply because fighters are fighters and it's always fun to be like "well ___________ can beat _______!!!" it's great for "settling" those debates.

Keeping my eyes open but not expecting anything much like every 3D Castlevania since the N64 lol

But Kojima is supervising this one.


That's an issue, because his "visions" typically haven't jived with me after MGS1.  I feel he has this effect I see with more creative people myself included, since I first saw this effect watching George Lucas's input in the original trilogy vs new trilogy I call it the Lucas effect.  Essentially a creative director can make an amazing product and it fit his imagination BUT the man needs people around him to channel that creative energy instead of him going hog ass wild doing whatever he feels like adding anything he wants because some things just don't work.

You need those down to Earth guys to tell you things like JARJAR IS THE MOST RETARDED AND UNINTENTIONALLY RACIST CHARACTER EVER CREATED!  They tell you things like HAVING RAIDEN AS A MAIN CHARACTER IS STUPID AND PEOPLE WILL HATE IT ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU MAKE HIM NUDE!  And finally that SPREADING THE STORY OF KINGDOM HEARTS ACROSS DIFFERENT PLATFORMS AND MAKING SIDE STORIES THAT MAKE THE OVERALL PLOT CONVOLUTED IS RETARDED!  Sorry but those are three prime examples of creative directors having too much freedom and not enough people telling them their ideas are retarded, thus making a better end product.

I agree on 1 of your examples, not the other 2 (Raiden and Jar Jar), neither Raiden or Jar Jar deserved 5% of the hate they got.

How was jar jar racist though?


I find writing of the prequels gets off far too much because Jar-Jar gets more of the blame. The writing should get most of the hate, people.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

darthdevidem01 on 10 June 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
Train wreck said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

"Im sure they are going off the success of Kojima and MGS4 and not the DS titles and the one failed Wii title. "

http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=castlevania

No, you're just showing you haven't looked at the sales of ANY Castlevania game.

Can you fill in all those zero's for us so we can get a better sense of sales?  That would be helpful.

Im sure Konami wouldnt bother making over 25 different castlevania games over theses last 20 years if the sales blew.


I didn't claim their sales blew. I just pointed out using a series that sells a hell of a lot more is a BS comparison.

MGS4 is not like Castlevania

This castlevania will be a hack n slash game.



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Metallicube on 10 June 2010
SaviorX said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
SaviorX said:

I read this and my eyes widened.

If my hair was grabbable, I was going to literally pull it out. For FUCKS SAKE


LOL calm down man.

Honestly I found this hilarious, it's as if the other Wii Ware and Judgement wasn't really dark and brooding.  I admit the first 2 on the DS weren't but the third really tried to go back to the roots and was praised for it.  (also for the sales declining, that's kinda what sequels do, it's REALLY rare that a sequel sells better)

Poor choice of words, though I am a Castlevania fan, I'm not really caring about this game, I hope it turns out to be good since most 3D Castlevania games don't, but also making it into Bayonetta Castlevania edition isn't to my personal liking.  I just don't think action is a good route for the series especially if they're trying to appeal to the fans, if not then why keep the name?  Why not have the same theme but call it something else, I felt the same way about judgement though I was more okay with that simply because fighters are fighters and it's always fun to be like "well ___________ can beat _______!!!" it's great for "settling" those debates.

Keeping my eyes open but not expecting anything much like every 3D Castlevania since the N64 lol


Castlevania N64 was the last one I played, and I loved it.

I just really don't understand who is making the decisions in the industry. The lack of logic, reasoning, or any type of informed thought really blows my mind. It's like wow, who comes up with this BS. I wouldn't be surprised if they did this just for the hell of it. It makes no sense, that's the problem.

Wow.... I gotta stay outta Nintendo discussion for the next few days until E3 LOL The incessant industry trolling is starting to bother me way more than it possibly should. I mean every day, more mud is being slung around.

It does always seem like right before and after Nintendo is about to announce/release something big, the mudslinging of Nintendo gets off the charts. The industry is in damage control mode me thinks..



themanwithnoname on 10 June 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
darthdevidem01 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
SaviorX said:

I read this and my eyes widened.

If my hair was grabbable, I was going to literally pull it out. For FUCKS SAKE


LOL calm down man.

Honestly I found this hilarious, it's as if the other Wii Ware and Judgement wasn't really dark and brooding.  I admit the first 2 on the DS weren't but the third really tried to go back to the roots and was praised for it.  (also for the sales declining, that's kinda what sequels do, it's REALLY rare that a sequel sells better)

Poor choice of words, though I am a Castlevania fan, I'm not really caring about this game, I hope it turns out to be good since most 3D Castlevania games don't, but also making it into Bayonetta Castlevania edition isn't to my personal liking.  I just don't think action is a good route for the series especially if they're trying to appeal to the fans, if not then why keep the name?  Why not have the same theme but call it something else, I felt the same way about judgement though I was more okay with that simply because fighters are fighters and it's always fun to be like "well ___________ can beat _______!!!" it's great for "settling" those debates.

Keeping my eyes open but not expecting anything much like every 3D Castlevania since the N64 lol

But Kojima is supervising this one.


That's an issue, because his "visions" typically haven't jived with me after MGS1.  I feel he has this effect I see with more creative people myself included, since I first saw this effect watching George Lucas's input in the original trilogy vs new trilogy I call it the Lucas effect.  Essentially a creative director can make an amazing product and it fit his imagination BUT the man needs people around him to channel that creative energy instead of him going hog ass wild doing whatever he feels like adding anything he wants because some things just don't work.

You need those down to Earth guys to tell you things like JARJAR IS THE MOST RETARDED AND UNINTENTIONALLY RACIST CHARACTER EVER CREATED!  They tell you things like HAVING RAIDEN AS A MAIN CHARACTER IS STUPID AND PEOPLE WILL HATE IT ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU MAKE HIM NUDE!  And finally that SPREADING THE STORY OF KINGDOM HEARTS ACROSS DIFFERENT PLATFORMS AND MAKING SIDE STORIES THAT MAKE THE OVERALL PLOT CONVOLUTED IS RETARDED!  Sorry but those are three prime examples of creative directors having too much freedom and not enough people telling them their ideas are retarded, thus making a better end product.

I agree on 1 of your examples, not the other 2 (Raiden and Jar Jar), neither Raiden or Jar Jar deserved 5% of the hate they got.

How was jar jar racist though?


I find writing of the prequels gets off far too much because Jar-Jar gets more of the blame. The writing should get most of the hate, people.

As an avid Star Wars fan, I agree that both Jar Jar and the writing are atrocious. I highly disagree with darth though. Jar Jar deserves ALL the hate he's gotten AND THEN SOME! Has there ever been a more worthless, pointless character than Jar Jar Binks? I don't think so.

Maxwell brings up a good point that the people around George Lucas should've just screamed "NO" at most of his ideas, but after discussing this with many people, I've concluded it's likely he would've just said "Screw you" and do it anyway.



themanwithnoname's law: As an America's sales or NPD thread grows longer, the probabilty of the comment "America = World" [sarcasticly] being made approaches 1.

darthdevidem01 on 10 June 2010
themanwithnoname said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
darthdevidem01 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
SaviorX said:

I read this and my eyes widened.

If my hair was grabbable, I was going to literally pull it out. For FUCKS SAKE


LOL calm down man.

Honestly I found this hilarious, it's as if the other Wii Ware and Judgement wasn't really dark and brooding.  I admit the first 2 on the DS weren't but the third really tried to go back to the roots and was praised for it.  (also for the sales declining, that's kinda what sequels do, it's REALLY rare that a sequel sells better)

Poor choice of words, though I am a Castlevania fan, I'm not really caring about this game, I hope it turns out to be good since most 3D Castlevania games don't, but also making it into Bayonetta Castlevania edition isn't to my personal liking.  I just don't think action is a good route for the series especially if they're trying to appeal to the fans, if not then why keep the name?  Why not have the same theme but call it something else, I felt the same way about judgement though I was more okay with that simply because fighters are fighters and it's always fun to be like "well ___________ can beat _______!!!" it's great for "settling" those debates.

Keeping my eyes open but not expecting anything much like every 3D Castlevania since the N64 lol

But Kojima is supervising this one.


That's an issue, because his "visions" typically haven't jived with me after MGS1.  I feel he has this effect I see with more creative people myself included, since I first saw this effect watching George Lucas's input in the original trilogy vs new trilogy I call it the Lucas effect.  Essentially a creative director can make an amazing product and it fit his imagination BUT the man needs people around him to channel that creative energy instead of him going hog ass wild doing whatever he feels like adding anything he wants because some things just don't work.

You need those down to Earth guys to tell you things like JARJAR IS THE MOST RETARDED AND UNINTENTIONALLY RACIST CHARACTER EVER CREATED!  They tell you things like HAVING RAIDEN AS A MAIN CHARACTER IS STUPID AND PEOPLE WILL HATE IT ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU MAKE HIM NUDE!  And finally that SPREADING THE STORY OF KINGDOM HEARTS ACROSS DIFFERENT PLATFORMS AND MAKING SIDE STORIES THAT MAKE THE OVERALL PLOT CONVOLUTED IS RETARDED!  Sorry but those are three prime examples of creative directors having too much freedom and not enough people telling them their ideas are retarded, thus making a better end product.

I agree on 1 of your examples, not the other 2 (Raiden and Jar Jar), neither Raiden or Jar Jar deserved 5% of the hate they got.

How was jar jar racist though?


I find writing of the prequels gets off far too much because Jar-Jar gets more of the blame. The writing should get most of the hate, people.

As an avid Star Wars fan, I agree that both Jar Jar and the writing are atrocious. I highly disagree with darth though. Jar Jar deserves ALL the hate he's gotten AND THEN SOME! Has there ever been a more worthless, pointless character than Jar Jar Binks? I don't think so.

Maxwell brings up a good point that the people around George Lucas should've just screamed "NO" at most of his ideas, but after discussing this with many people, I've concluded it's likely he would've just said "Screw you" and do it anyway.

VERY few things on this planet deserve the hate Jar Jar got.



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

O-D-C on 10 June 2010

screw you too Konami



LordTheNightKnight on 10 June 2010
themanwithnoname said:

As an avid Star Wars fan, I agree that both Jar Jar and the writing are atrocious. I highly disagree with darth though. Jar Jar deserves ALL the hate he's gotten AND THEN SOME! Has there ever been a more worthless, pointless character than Jar Jar Binks? I don't think so.

Maxwell brings up a good point that the people around George Lucas should've just screamed "NO" at most of his ideas, but after discussing this with many people, I've concluded it's likely he would've just said "Screw you" and do it anyway.


Anakin at 9 years old. There was no point to showing him then. It didn't even fit the "When I first knew him, your father was already a great pilot. But I was amazed how strongly the Force was with him."

Sure older Anakin was a jerk, but at least we wouldn't have Gary Stuwalker.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs