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windbane on 04 December 2007
Girl Gamer Elite said:
windbane said:
Girl Gamer Elite said:

Face it, Windbane, you're just kidding yourself. While you're opinions may be shared by many, its not enough to make the PS3 a success or stop the Wii from dominating.

The more you try and argue that extranious factors justify the Ps3, the more desperate you just make your argument look. Your arguments are nothing more than the condolences given by those to their console of choice which has failed to live up its glory.

Listening to your argument is like trying to listen to a Confederate sympathizer argue how the South really won the Civil war through atrition, just that the North had more men to throw away. In the end, the North won for a variety of reasons, and in the end that was all that mattered.


Comparing console sales to a real war is insulting to humanity. Stay on topic and actually respond to what people say.


I am on topic and have more than adequately adressed all of your points. I'm sorry you feel trying to drag this down with more of your fringe arguments will give you the upper hand, but all it does is show just how out of touch you are on the matter.

And the war comparison was relevant and quite poetic, if you don't like it, try making better arguments.


You don't even know how to argue.  All you do is troll. 



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HappySqurriel on 04 December 2007
windbane said:
HappySqurriel said:
 

In which generation did a console outsell its competition by a margin of (over) 2 to 1 for over a year and fail to lead at the end of the generation?

Much like the DS vs. The PSP, this generation has been decided and gamers choose the system which was much more affordable and was focused on gaming rather than multimedia features or processing power ...

 


There has been no generation such as the one we are in. The videogame industry isn't very old.

 

This generation is (really) not that much different from many that have come before it ... The industry is set up in a way that re-enforces the same pattern being executed time and time again

Third party publishers will not ignore a platform that has (dramatically) higher sales in favour of a platform with lower sales because their risks are (generally) lower on the system with higher sales and their potential return on the system with higher sales is (generally) higher. After third parties have made their shift consumers will continue to buy the system with higher sales because it is more popular (cooler) and it has more good games.

People who think the PS3 stands a chance of comming back don't realize that next year the PS3 is going to have a similar number of games released as they did this year, while the Wii will (likely) have 2 to 3 times as many games released for it; unlike the games released this year the Wii's games will be built from the ground up for the Wii, generally higher quality, and entirely exclusive.

 



Girl Gamer Elite on 04 December 2007
windbane said:
Girl Gamer Elite said:
windbane said:
Girl Gamer Elite said:

Face it, Windbane, you're just kidding yourself. While you're opinions may be shared by many, its not enough to make the PS3 a success or stop the Wii from dominating.

The more you try and argue that extranious factors justify the Ps3, the more desperate you just make your argument look. Your arguments are nothing more than the condolences given by those to their console of choice which has failed to live up its glory.

Listening to your argument is like trying to listen to a Confederate sympathizer argue how the South really won the Civil war through atrition, just that the North had more men to throw away. In the end, the North won for a variety of reasons, and in the end that was all that mattered.


Comparing console sales to a real war is insulting to humanity. Stay on topic and actually respond to what people say.


I am on topic and have more than adequately adressed all of your points. I'm sorry you feel trying to drag this down with more of your fringe arguments will give you the upper hand, but all it does is show just how out of touch you are on the matter.

And the war comparison was relevant and quite poetic, if you don't like it, try making better arguments.


You don't even know how to argue.  All you do is troll. 


Funny, I could say the same of you as well. But which one is telling the truth?



a.l.e.x59 on 04 December 2007

Why? Perhaps people reference to the Nintendo DS, and overly implement it towards the Wii's success.



BornFirst. on 04 December 2007

Hi Guys i am New here. Wow this a long thread topic. I think that the Wii remote, can with time be molded to fit every genre out there, it just takes a smart developer to bring out the potential. All I know is, after playing Wii sports, i don't think i will be interested in playing tennis, bowling, or golf games with a regular controller again. And after playing RE4, i am kinda upset RE5 won't be coming to the Wii, awsome games awesome controlls. Thats what is great about the Wii remote, its a disruptor, slowly it disrupts each genre, it gets into. It took a few tries to get fps right, but it seems its there, and now its trying to get the hack and slash right (soul calibre legends,Devil kings etc...), there is no reason it can't disrupt the fighting genre like i stated above, it just needs that creative director.

In regards to graphics, as beuatifull as the PS3, and 360 graphics are, i think the Wii has enough power to display beuatifull graphics. Multiplatform is the way to go, you get the best of all worlds. Current owner of a Wii, PS2, DS PSP and soon to be a PS3.



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windbane on 05 December 2007
Girl Gamer Elite said:
windbane said:
 

You don't even know how to argue. All you do is troll.


Funny, I could say the same of you as well. But which one is telling the truth?


I'll let the evidence stand for itself. 



Girl Gamer Elite on 05 December 2007
windbane said:
Girl Gamer Elite said:
windbane said:
 

You don't even know how to argue. All you do is troll.


Funny, I could say the same of you as well. But which one is telling the truth?


I'll let the evidence stand for itself. 


Funny, I was just thinking the same thing. :)



windbane on 05 December 2007
HappySqurriel said:
windbane said:
HappySqurriel said:
 

In which generation did a console outsell its competition by a margin of (over) 2 to 1 for over a year and fail to lead at the end of the generation?

Much like the DS vs. The PSP, this generation has been decided and gamers choose the system which was much more affordable and was focused on gaming rather than multimedia features or processing power ...

 


There has been no generation such as the one we are in. The videogame industry isn't very old.

 

This generation is (really) not that much different from many that have come before it ... The industry is set up in a way that re-enforces the same pattern being executed time and time again

Third party publishers will not ignore a platform that has (dramatically) higher sales in favour of a platform with lower sales because their risks are (generally) lower on the system with higher sales and their potential return on the system with higher sales is (generally) higher. After third parties have made their shift consumers will continue to buy the system with higher sales because it is more popular (cooler) and it has more good games.

People who think the PS3 stands a chance of comming back don't realize that next year the PS3 is going to have a similar number of games released as they did this year, while the Wii will (likely) have 2 to 3 times as many games released for it; unlike the games released this year the Wii's games will be built from the ground up for the Wii, generally higher quality, and entirely exclusive.

 


I am not even arguing that the PS3 will come back to overcome the Wii.  I am saying that the Wii, faced with the competition of both the 360 and PS3, will not dominate as some are predicting.  I think, as the thread title indicates, that peopel are overestimating the Wii's lifetime sales.  That's all. 



windbane on 05 December 2007
a.l.e.x59 said:
Why? Perhaps people reference to the Nintendo DS, and overly implement it towards the Wii's success.

I agree.  The big difference there is that the only competition is the PSP, whereas the Wii has 2 other options that are appealing for third parties because they can port between the 2 and the PC.  Also, PSN and Live allow for great casual games. 



windbane on 05 December 2007
Girl Gamer Elite said:
windbane said:
Girl Gamer Elite said:
windbane said:
 

You don't even know how to argue. All you do is troll.


Funny, I could say the same of you as well. But which one is telling the truth?


I'll let the evidence stand for itself.


Funny, I was just thinking the same thing. :)


 Then I guess we can agree on something.