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Well done to Lewis Hamilton. Also to Jenson Button.

Fantastic to race to watch. With many a drama.

Just to point out a few things. There is way to many new fans of F1 recently on the net talking absolute trash.

The Webber/Vettel incident without a doubt is bigger than the single move on track. It is very clear that Webber was running less top speed. And in fact for the 10 laps before was doing .100 of second a lap faster than Vettel. The 2 laps before Vettel made his move, he was all of a sudden .4 seconds each lap quicker than Webber ( who confirmed he had no problems and was asked to turn down his engine ). Certain people are trying to clarify if Vettel was asked to turn his engine up at the same time. This unfortuantely will be a case where only Redbull will ever know.

However Vettels ability behind the wheel when either challenging or challenged is very sly. He apologised 1 year ago to Kubica for abruptly turning into him saying he didnt see him. Fair enough, benefit of the doubt. What some here may not know, is Lewis over the radio put a complaint of dangerous driving in about Vettel when Lewis went to take him. Claiming that he turned into Lewis ( causing Lewis to avoid ) when side by side on Lewis 2nd time behind Vettel. Then again Vettel clearly via cockpit footage turned towards Webber ( And no Webber is not obliged to move ) when he should have held line. Vettel should be penalised severely. It was dangerous.

The Lewis/Button was a great watch. However should never have taken place. Lewis was asked over the radio that both him and Button were told to save fuel. However Button wasnt told till after their tussle. Clearly menaing Lewis was purposefully lapping slower due to making it to the finish. I think this was nothing more than a mistake at Mclaren. They just forgot to tell Button straight away. I dont think there was any badness in the Mclaren team. Just an error. I think both Button and Lewis are aware of that to. Lewis was to surprised for it not to be.

However great TV.



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Basically Vettel was iditotic in that, I don't know what he thought he was doing, but it was a decent race overall. I always think it is more interesting with rain (I know I am not alone in that), and apart from the few incidents at the front, there was not that much going on

I think it is a slight shame that Mercedes and Ferrari have fallen off the back of the leading 2, though it would be more interesting if Alonso could qualify



Vettel was totally to blame - and maybe the team asked Mark to get slower and turned up Vettel's engine, but maybe not. Anyways he was just too immature to figure out his team companion is also a contender for the title and one that would not change his line for silly maneuvers like throwing your car in the front of others even if you didn't have a clear advantage.
Button and Hamilton were a bit more mature. They had a great duel with virtually no huge risks for their race, even if it lasted for a while before Button was asked to manage his remaining fuel like Hamilton was doing. I think the tried to overtake at first thinking Hamilton had some issue with his car.
Few to comment on the other pilots. Schumacher definitely holds the upper hand over Rosberg, even if it is a close advantage. I wonder how things would proceed in a track that favors top speed like Canada. McLaren could have the upper hand over RBR.



 

 

 

 

 

Martin Whitmarsh seemed to be on the edge of his seat when Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button tried to manoeuvre past each other. The collision between Sebastian Vettel (pronounced FvETTEL) and Mark Webber was the obvious reason for his worries.



haxxiy said:

Vettel was totally to blame - and maybe the team asked Mark to get slower and turned up Vettel's engine, but maybe not. Anyways he was just too immature to figure out his team companion is also a contender for the title and one that would not change his line for silly maneuvers like throwing your car in the front of others even if you didn't have a clear advantage.
Button and Hamilton were a bit more mature. They had a great duel with virtually no huge risks for their race, even if it lasted for a while before Button was asked to manage his remaining fuel like Hamilton was doing. I think the tried to overtake at first thinking Hamilton had some issue with his car.
Few to comment on the other pilots. Schumacher definitely holds the upper hand over Rosberg, even if it is a close advantage. I wonder how things would proceed in a track that favors top speed like Canada. McLaren could have the upper hand over RBR.

Well RBR should have their own f-duct by the next race, so that should make things interesting

@ rainbow yoshi, I think we were all on the edge of our seats, I barely breathed during that section, I would have found it hilarious if they managed to knock themselves out as well, but it was just some good competitive driving in the end



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Munkeh111 said:
haxxiy said:

Vettel was totally to blame - and maybe the team asked Mark to get slower and turned up Vettel's engine, but maybe not. Anyways he was just too immature to figure out his team companion is also a contender for the title and one that would not change his line for silly maneuvers like throwing your car in the front of others even if you didn't have a clear advantage.
Button and Hamilton were a bit more mature. They had a great duel with virtually no huge risks for their race, even if it lasted for a while before Button was asked to manage his remaining fuel like Hamilton was doing. I think the tried to overtake at first thinking Hamilton had some issue with his car.
Few to comment on the other pilots. Schumacher definitely holds the upper hand over Rosberg, even if it is a close advantage. I wonder how things would proceed in a track that favors top speed like Canada. McLaren could have the upper hand over RBR.

Well RBR should have their own f-duct by the next race, so that should make things interesting

@ rainbow yoshi, I think we were all on the edge of our seats, I barely breathed during that section, I would have found it hilarious if they managed to knock themselves out as well, but it was just some good competitive driving in the end

I would consider the Turkish Grand Prix as my favourite of the year so far. I hope McLaren wins the season! The Canadian Grand Prix in Montreal is due to be held next!



pretty good race, it's great that Hamilton won and Button came second, they both have a really good chance of winning the WDC atm, I hope one of them does.



Rainbow Yoshi said:
Munkeh111 said:
haxxiy said:

Vettel was totally to blame - and maybe the team asked Mark to get slower and turned up Vettel's engine, but maybe not. Anyways he was just too immature to figure out his team companion is also a contender for the title and one that would not change his line for silly maneuvers like throwing your car in the front of others even if you didn't have a clear advantage.
Button and Hamilton were a bit more mature. They had a great duel with virtually no huge risks for their race, even if it lasted for a while before Button was asked to manage his remaining fuel like Hamilton was doing. I think the tried to overtake at first thinking Hamilton had some issue with his car.
Few to comment on the other pilots. Schumacher definitely holds the upper hand over Rosberg, even if it is a close advantage. I wonder how things would proceed in a track that favors top speed like Canada. McLaren could have the upper hand over RBR.

Well RBR should have their own f-duct by the next race, so that should make things interesting

@ rainbow yoshi, I think we were all on the edge of our seats, I barely breathed during that section, I would have found it hilarious if they managed to knock themselves out as well, but it was just some good competitive driving in the end

I would consider the Turkish Grand Prix as my favourite of the year so far. I hope McLaren wins the season! The Canadian Grand Prix in Montreal is due to be held next!

Also do remeber that the Mclarens have a better car in slower corners right now to. So Canada and England ( new Silverstone track ) should favour Mclaren more. However both tems will be bringing new parts to both races. So hopefully we will have many more battles over the season. It's great to see a team challenging RBR now. And as a Lewis fan, I'm glad it's Mclaren. :)

On another note. As another posted has said. Great to see Schumi doing well again. I rally belive by the end of the season, he will have some podiums if not a win. He hasnt lost his racecraft and his pace is certainly improving race by race.

Also back in the days of Senna/Prost, Damon/Schui, etc they were very aggressive. Nowadys it's tame to say the least. Only really Lewis, Alonso and recently Button seem to be bringing the old win the race on the track feeling back. This is racing. Senna was penalised 8 times in his career quite severly. But this shows the determination to win on track. And not pitstops. I thought Lewis comment after the race was fantastic. He was asked why he didn't look to happy. He said he was happy, but is a racer. And wants to win it by merit on the track. All drivers need to put their dummy's away and take it to the edge. ( Safely obviously Vettel ) and make daring moves.

F1 is coming back to what it once was all those years ago.