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Squilliam on 30 May 2010

All early reviews of any big game are suspect, its the nature of the fact that game reviewers cannot release anything but favourable reviews early on and if it falls below certain 'standards' then they cannot publish. Some of the difference here can be attributed to size of budget, if Obsidion were some big developer it'd instantly be 10 points more on the average review scores.



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AbbathTheGrim on 30 May 2010
CollectiveCynic said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
CollectiveCynic said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
I just hope that you are not one of those people who cannot realize the greatness that Bethesda brought to the Fallout franchise and that are still crying because Interplay didn't get to make Fallout 3.

They shouldn't have made a Fallout sequel to begin with, it should've remained the way it is. Sometimes, some game series don't need a comeback, the results are usually quite bad.


See? The real name for this thread should be "Fallout 3 sucked and shouldn't have been made" instead of what you wrote. Obsidian = Interplay + Fallout = Bethesda.

I beg to differ with you, I am happy that Bethesda continued Fallout and thjat they have brought their gaming mechanics to Fallout. I recognize that there is a very deep and immersive storyline in the previous Fallouts that is not matched with Fallout 3 but I find that battle system boring as hell and what Bethesda did with Fallout 3 was taking that atmosphere and putting a battle system I could like (coming from someone who has been playing since the Super Nintendo and who is not a #1 fan of FPS).

Now that Obsidian and some of the people who used to work with the original Fallout are behind Fallout New Vegas we may see great things with them building up from that which Bethesda did.

You don't have to agree with me. Our opinions can exist at the same time. This is more like a space to express myself and enjoying while at it without having that asshole Ausir getting in conversation and abusing of his powers as administrator in trying to create the illusion that his OPINION (OPINION) is more valid than that of the rest. God, that guy is an asshole.

Hahahaha, calm down. Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean it cannot be contested or argued. I'm saying that you're an idiot for having an opposing view point. I've also never stated that Fallout 3 sucked, it was decent game but it simply did not live up to the classics. The combat was a joke, the combat for Fallout & Fallout 2 were fare more methodical and strategic. All I had to do is easily fire until my points are regained, and then use the VATS system. Another problem was the sense of isolation, the world was a barren wasteland that you had to struggle to survive. Items were scarce and you had to use them wisely, Fallout 3 is an all you can eat buffet with items in every corner of the game world.

Fallout 3 isn't a bad game, but it's awful for what it could've been. You may not agree with my views, that's okay. However, if you're going to argue, do it in with valid criticisms in your reply.

I almost gave you a free pass and you call me an idiot for thinking differently? 

You think that F3's combat is a joke? I say it isn't. Why should your views weight more than mine? Some people are so self-absorbed that is almost pathetic. You open this thread to complain about reviewers not thinking like you? There is life outside that little bubble you are living in. Mature.

I don't use VATS as the main means in combat. I go with Melee Weapons most of the time. I have no problem doing headshots with Ol' Painless and I very well handle combat with the Xualong Rifle. I have no problems with the combat system. Maybe you try learning how to play the game.

The combat in the original Fallout bores me to death and nothing you say will change this. A prefer Shinning Force battle system a hundred times above that boring combat system from the original Fs.

You don't care whether I like it or not? Then why do you have this need to make reviewers think like you do? Apply that universally and just play the games you like and worship them and stop wasting our time.

The guys at Obsidian themselves said that Bethesda nailed it with the exploration and scavenging. The same developers you are trying to put above Besthesda don't even agree with you.



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Barozi on 30 May 2010
vlad321 said:
Barozi said:
CollectiveCynic said:

It's been an on going trend amongst critics during this generation of gaming. Many games receive "rave" reviews despite their obvious flaws, they're so caught in the hype, that they become oblivious to the flaws.

Examples:

  • Grand Theft Auto IV (Excellent game, but not worthy of a 98 average rating)
  • Gears of War 2 (Great single-player mode and horde mode is a lot of fun, but the multi-player...)
  • Modern Warfare 2
  • Oblivion
  • Any Halo title after the Combat Evolved
  • Fable II
  • Fallout 3

They're all good games, but hardly deserving of the accolades that the influx of the media give it.

Total disagree and I'm not a game critic. All those games easily deserve 90+ scores and are the best of their respective genres. (Fable 2 being the exception).

conspiracy theory rejected.

He is actually completely correct on everything he listed. Should have added a few more for good measure.

need to quote myself here:

Barozi said:

Sure, GTA IV is overrated. Never deserves a 98.

I would give it a 92, but I think an average score of 90 is fair. (+/- 10 points for the individual taste) Anyone rating it below that (80) is either lying to themself or simply never played a game that would really fit in that department.

The only game where I really don't agree with high score is LBP. Low 80s for me.

Everything else lies within +/- 5 points and some others within +/- 10, which I would say is the normal value for a margin of error (error being the average of critics OR yourself !)



Severance on 30 May 2010

i couldn't believe how they rated RE5, Fallout 3 and MW2
those games aren't THAT good.



I live for the burn...and the sting of pleasure...
I live for the sword, the steel, and the gun...

- Wasteland - The Mission.

cmeese47 on 30 May 2010

Resident Evil 5 is a blast when you play it with someone. The survival mode is challenging and fun sure the game lost some atmosphere it is still a very good game. Fallout 3 was incredible; however to rpg purists the ability scores should have been modified making weapons and not just armor more restrictive.