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disolitude on 31 May 2010
routsounmanman said:
disolitude said:
RolStoppable said:
Muramasa: The Demon Blade can be summed up by the words "style over substance".

Sadly I agree with this. I wanted to love the game but gameplay is just not up to snuff. It does look beautiful, especially in 3D vision..heh heh

There he goes again >_>

Where am I going?



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routsounmanman on 31 May 2010
disolitude said:
routsounmanman said:
disolitude said:
RolStoppable said:
Muramasa: The Demon Blade can be summed up by the words "style over substance".

Sadly I agree with this. I wanted to love the game but gameplay is just not up to snuff. It does look beautiful, especially in 3D vision..heh heh

There he goes again >_>

Where am I going?

Amazing emulator and PC rig, 1080p, 3D vision, come on!



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disolitude on 31 May 2010
routsounmanman said:
disolitude said:
routsounmanman said:
disolitude said:
RolStoppable said:
Muramasa: The Demon Blade can be summed up by the words "style over substance".

Sadly I agree with this. I wanted to love the game but gameplay is just not up to snuff. It does look beautiful, especially in 3D vision..heh heh

There he goes again >_>

Where am I going?

Amazing emulator and PC rig, 1080p, 3D vision, come on!

lol. Why is that a problem for some people? I'm just hoping as many people try that stuff as possible...



loves2splooge on 31 May 2010

It's a problem for some people because "emulator" has turned into a dirty word among "hardcore gamers". There is nothing illegal about emulators themselves. Commercial emulator developers have been sued before and the cases were thrown out of court because they aren't illegal. If disolitude uses his GameCube/Wii emulator to play legitimate copies of Gamecube and Wii games, he is not doing anything illegal. Even if he made his own ISO copy of his Gamecube and Wii games, he wouldn't be doing anything illegal. It's illegal to use ISOs you didn't make yourself (ie. downloading them from the internet) from your own game discs and it's illegal to hack out/patch out copy protection (DMCA Act rule) but not to copy your own software for personal use.

It's funny. Almost everyone uses portable audio devices for illcit purposes (mainly playing MP3s they downloaded off the internet through illicit channels) but yet no one gives you a dirty look if you talk about your portable audio player.



disolitude on 31 May 2010
loves2splooge said:
It's a problem for some people because "emulator" has turned into a dirty word among "hardcore gamers". There is nothing illegal about emulators themselves. Commercial emulator developers have been sued before and the cases were thrown out of court because they aren't illegal. If disolitude uses his GameCube/Wii emulator to play legitimate copies of Gamecube and Wii games, he is not doing anything illegal. Even if he made his own ISO copy of his Gamecube and Wii games, he wouldn't be doing anything illegal. It's illegal to use ISOs you didn't make yourself (ie. downloading them from the internet) from your own game discs and it's illegal to hack out/patch out copy protection (DMCA Act rule) but not to copy your own software for personal use.

It's funny. Almost everyone uses portable audio devices for illcit purposes (mainly playing MP3s they downloaded off the internet through illicit channels) but yet no one gives you a dirty look if you talk about your portable audio player.


While I agree that its morally wrong to blatantly pirate games and enjoy them, it being "illegal" depends where you live and what kind of laws the country has. Canada has absolutely no copywright laws for using P2P to download games. Nada. 

Gaming industry has been pushing the governemnt for 2 years now but there isn't a law made which resticts anyone from using P2P software to download an ISO, even if one doesn't own it.

Also, its not illegal to download P2P music here - http://news.cnet.com/2100-1025_3-5121479.html

I have to pay a 25 dollar premium on an ipod tho.

As far as me downloading ISO's, I own Maramusa original as well as 8 other wii games... but I have tried out games which I don't own using the emulator. Sin and punishment 2 and Red Steel 2 come to mind recently. Sin an punishment 2 will be purchased day 1 when it comes out in Canada (June 27)...Red Steel 2 was deleted off my hard drive after 30 minutes of play and will never be played again.

Bottom line is...when it comes to emulators, roms and ISO's...if I enjoy it, I pay for it. If it sucks, I try and move on. I do not have any moral problems doing this procedure what so ever.



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contestgamer on 31 May 2010
Faxanadu said:
O-D-C said:
Faxanadu said:
O-D-C said:
I still havn't played this game, and I want to so bad...

I got it from Amazon UK for less than 20 Euros.

So what is your excuse for not getting it?

I have less then 20 Euros...

Wow, you seriously need to do something about that. How do you eat?

You can easily modify your wii to play downloaded games. I just modified my new one and it was a 4.2u, It's easy and works with all of them. You do have to pay about 20 for DVD's, but you'll get 50 DVD's so that'll last you quite a while even if you play a lot of wii and gamecube games. And you should have an sd card lying around somewhere anyway, right? It'll save you a ton of mone in the long run. I've probably saved thousands across all my systems doing this.



contestgamer on 31 May 2010
disolitude said:
loves2splooge said:
It's a problem for some people because "emulator" has turned into a dirty word among "hardcore gamers". There is nothing illegal about emulators themselves. Commercial emulator developers have been sued before and the cases were thrown out of court because they aren't illegal. If disolitude uses his GameCube/Wii emulator to play legitimate copies of Gamecube and Wii games, he is not doing anything illegal. Even if he made his own ISO copy of his Gamecube and Wii games, he wouldn't be doing anything illegal. It's illegal to use ISOs you didn't make yourself (ie. downloading them from the internet) from your own game discs and it's illegal to hack out/patch out copy protection (DMCA Act rule) but not to copy your own software for personal use.

It's funny. Almost everyone uses portable audio devices for illcit purposes (mainly playing MP3s they downloaded off the internet through illicit channels) but yet no one gives you a dirty look if you talk about your portable audio player.


While I agree that its morally wrong to blatantly pirate games and enjoy them, it being "illegal" depends where you live and what kind of laws the country has. Canada has absolutely no copywright laws for using P2P to download games. Nada. 

Gaming industry has been pushing the governemnt for 2 years now but there isn't a law made which resticts anyone from using P2P software to download an ISO, even if one doesn't own it.

Also, its not illegal to download P2P music here - http://news.cnet.com/2100-1025_3-5121479.html

I have to pay a 25 dollar premium on an ipod tho.

As far as me downloading ISO's, I own Maramusa original as well as 8 other wii games... but I have tried out games which I don't own using the emulator. Sin and punishment 2 and Red Steel 2 come to mind recently. Sin an punishment 2 will be purchased day 1 when it comes out in Canada (June 27)...Red Steel 2 was deleted off my hard drive after 30 minutes of play and will never be played again.

Bottom line is...when it comes to emulators, roms and ISO's...if I enjoy it, I pay for it. If it sucks, I try and move on. I do not have any moral problems doing this procedure what so ever.

 

yes, Canadian laws make a lot of sense. I hope they stay the way they are.



pariz on 31 May 2010
routsounmanman said:
disolitude said:
RolStoppable said:
Muramasa: The Demon Blade can be summed up by the words "style over substance".

Sadly I agree with this. I wanted to love the game but gameplay is just not up to snuff. It does look beautiful, especially in 3D vision..heh heh

There he goes again >_>


I remembered your discussion from other forums, and I laughed.

 

Apart from that, I am another one of those who fell in love with Muramasa for its beauty, for its soundtrack and for how much fun it is. Unfortunately I have just seen one ending and I didn't get all of the swords yet. I have to much gaming to catch up to... :(



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Faxanadu on 31 May 2010
contestgamer said:
Faxanadu said:
O-D-C said:
Faxanadu said:
O-D-C said:
I still havn't played this game, and I want to so bad...

I got it from Amazon UK for less than 20 Euros.

So what is your excuse for not getting it?

I have less then 20 Euros...

Wow, you seriously need to do something about that. How do you eat?

You can easily modify your wii to play downloaded games. I just modified my new one and it was a 4.2u, It's easy and works with all of them. You do have to pay about 20 for DVD's, but you'll get 50 DVD's so that'll last you quite a while even if you play a lot of wii and gamecube games. And you should have an sd card lying around somewhere anyway, right? It'll save you a ton of mone in the long run. I've probably saved thousands across all my systems doing this.

I am not a thief and I am not morally crippled.



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loves2splooge on 31 May 2010
disolitude said:
loves2splooge said:
It's a problem for some people because "emulator" has turned into a dirty word among "hardcore gamers". There is nothing illegal about emulators themselves. Commercial emulator developers have been sued before and the cases were thrown out of court because they aren't illegal. If disolitude uses his GameCube/Wii emulator to play legitimate copies of Gamecube and Wii games, he is not doing anything illegal. Even if he made his own ISO copy of his Gamecube and Wii games, he wouldn't be doing anything illegal. It's illegal to use ISOs you didn't make yourself (ie. downloading them from the internet) from your own game discs and it's illegal to hack out/patch out copy protection (DMCA Act rule) but not to copy your own software for personal use.

It's funny. Almost everyone uses portable audio devices for illcit purposes (mainly playing MP3s they downloaded off the internet through illicit channels) but yet no one gives you a dirty look if you talk about your portable audio player.


While I agree that its morally wrong to blatantly pirate games and enjoy them, it being "illegal" depends where you live and what kind of laws the country has. Canada has absolutely no copywright laws for using P2P to download games. Nada. 

Gaming industry has been pushing the governemnt for 2 years now but there isn't a law made which resticts anyone from using P2P software to download an ISO, even if one doesn't own it.

Also, its not illegal to download P2P music here - http://news.cnet.com/2100-1025_3-5121479.html

I have to pay a 25 dollar premium on an ipod tho.

As far as me downloading ISO's, I own Maramusa original as well as 8 other wii games... but I have tried out games which I don't own using the emulator. Sin and punishment 2 and Red Steel 2 come to mind recently. Sin an punishment 2 will be purchased day 1 when it comes out in Canada (June 27)...Red Steel 2 was deleted off my hard drive after 30 minutes of play and will never be played again.

Bottom line is...when it comes to emulators, roms and ISO's...if I enjoy it, I pay for it. If it sucks, I try and move on. I do not have any moral problems doing this procedure what so ever.

Didn't the Conservative Party change the laws here in Canada to make them more like America's DMCA? I could have sworn the bill was passed already.