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I don't think we another thread about this...there are shortages of the PS3 in America...sony is only willing to ship a maximum number of units to the us right now given the current losses they take on each sale. The new build should allow them to increase this maximum number towards the holiday season.



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GreyianStorm said:

C) It doesn't take months, but it does take weeks. There is shipping involved, and the vast majority of consumer electronics are shipped by sea as it is far cheaper.

D) You also can't just divert a PAL shipment to NTSC. They are built differently. There is slightly different technology in there. This ties in with the original forecasts. If SCEA had a forecast for 4.5 million units, the manufacturing plant wouldn't have ordered much more than 4.5 million NTSC-compatible components, as it would generally be a waste. If they have run out of components (which is the most likely cause of a shortage, or else stock being held back), then they can not build more US PS3s.

To tie in with D): Whether it is a lack of components or stock being held back, it would be expected that there would be US shortages. If it is components, they can not make more US PS3s. If it is stock being held back, it makes perfect sense that there are shortages.

First of all, the manufacturer does not care the least what happens with the goods that leave its doors. Every year at some magical point, the manufacturer signs a contract (probably the size of 2-3 bibles) with a customer what he has to deliver at which time. Making profit means that the manufacturer has to go over all his "bibles" and plan manufacturing for all the various stuff to be made (Foxconn, a city of 350'000 workers, does a lot of stuff, inluding rising the prices significantly in the near future after all these recent suicides).

In the case of the PS3, they probably get some/most of the raw materials from Sony as Sony is one of the largest manufacturers of optical drives so they have some manufacturing muscle themselves. In the grand scheme, there are no magical weeks left at any manufacturing plant to make more products - this would take almost an entire fj to implement. (Actually, it is not impossible, but would increase the price anywhere from 50 to 200%). As was the case for the year-long draught with the Wii - people complaining for months why Nintendo would not simply ship more Wiis.

As for redirecting PS3s from here to there, forget it instantly. Sony can't do it because they don't own the manufactued PS3s any more. They are owned by Sony Europe, Sony America, Sony Asia, Sony wherever... None of these regions are going through the logical nightmare to reship some of their stock, even if they had a surplus (and losing money anyway). All these regions will get exactly the number of PS3s they ordered for this fiscal year.

As for shortages in Europe, there are problems with 120G units even here. The global economic crises seems to almost bypass consoles and demand was underestimated. End of story. Every region gets what it ordered, not a single unit more or less.



scat398 said:
sony is only willing to ship a maximum number of units to the us right now given the current losses they take on each sale. The new build should allow them to increase this maximum number towards the holiday season.

No, complete nonsense. Read above, this has nothing to do with fiddling with manufacturing price or "new build". Everything runs as planned.



In my contry (México), there are plenity of stock



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mightyERone said:

I know some people like that "New car scent",  "Got to have it in my hands now mentallity" but PS3 Has never Been in short supply even if autofficially applied.  It's called ONLINE shopping, Cotsco and B.J whole sale.  It's always been available at trickle cause no one really wants it (cept fans) and Euro Funds is higher than the U.S. dollar so it is always be in abundance in Europe.  If you really want one and you play games you CAN find it.  Enjoy..

Careful, don't tell that to the PS3 fans. They seemed to be opposed to facts, and will shoot you down, despite the absolute proof that PS3 has been available at amazon and many other online stores for months now.

I don't see how any logical person can possibly look at 45,000 sales a week and actually equate that to shortages. Especially when you consider that they've sold almost twice that in earlier months this year. Do people TRUELY believe that Sony just halved their supply out of the blue? Sony fans simply refuse to believe that PS3 sales are finally falling back down to earth, and will prbably still be using the shortage excuse even in August, when PS3 sales are still lagging. It immediately puts the poor PS3 sales off the hook.

If Sony IS really short on supply in the US, and only managing to ship 45,000 units in a week, then they are simply doing it on purpose. No multi billion dollar company could be somehow held back to only shipping that little consoles. And if they are, they sure won't be a serious competitor for long.



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i seen some places price went up a bit.

like multimax "a retailer". etc

http://www.panafoto.com/es/cat/prods/28

they but marking up price alot.



I see them in my local Bestbuy and Target stores. Didn't really care enough to check how many they had as I am not in the market for another PS3.



none at my gamestop or bestbuy



drkohler said:
GreyianStorm said:

C) It doesn't take months, but it does take weeks. There is shipping involved, and the vast majority of consumer electronics are shipped by sea as it is far cheaper.

D) You also can't just divert a PAL shipment to NTSC. They are built differently. There is slightly different technology in there. This ties in with the original forecasts. If SCEA had a forecast for 4.5 million units, the manufacturing plant wouldn't have ordered much more than 4.5 million NTSC-compatible components, as it would generally be a waste. If they have run out of components (which is the most likely cause of a shortage, or else stock being held back), then they can not build more US PS3s.

To tie in with D): Whether it is a lack of components or stock being held back, it would be expected that there would be US shortages. If it is components, they can not make more US PS3s. If it is stock being held back, it makes perfect sense that there are shortages.

First of all, the manufacturer does not care the least what happens with the goods that leave its doors. Every year at some magical point, the manufacturer signs a contract (probably the size of 2-3 bibles) with a customer what he has to deliver at which time. Making profit means that the manufacturer has to go over all his "bibles" and plan manufacturing for all the various stuff to be made (Foxconn, a city of 350'000 workers, does a lot of stuff, inluding rising the prices significantly in the near future after all these recent suicides).

In the case of the PS3, they probably get some/most of the raw materials from Sony as Sony is one of the largest manufacturers of optical drives so they have some manufacturing muscle themselves. In the grand scheme, there are no magical weeks left at any manufacturing plant to make more products - this would take almost an entire fj to implement. (Actually, it is not impossible, but would increase the price anywhere from 50 to 200%). As was the case for the year-long draught with the Wii - people complaining for months why Nintendo would not simply ship more Wiis.

As for redirecting PS3s from here to there, forget it instantly. Sony can't do it because they don't own the manufactued PS3s any more. They are owned by Sony Europe, Sony America, Sony Asia, Sony wherever... None of these regions are going through the logical nightmare to reship some of their stock, even if they had a surplus (and losing money anyway). All these regions will get exactly the number of PS3s they ordered for this fiscal year.

As for shortages in Europe, there are problems with 120G units even here. The global economic crises seems to almost bypass consoles and demand was underestimated. End of story. Every region gets what it ordered, not a single unit more or less.

I think you may have quoted the wrong post. That is pretty much the exact point I was making. Sony will have ordered x number of components, and once they run out, they have no more.

As for shipping EU PS3s to US etc, that was Hyruken's suggestion. I was saying the same thing you just said, that it isn't Sony that is in control of those PS3s anymore, and it doesn't help the people who have them (be it Sony Europe, or actual retailers such as Game, MediaMarkt, HMV etc) to ship them to the US.



Metallicube said:
mightyERone said:

I know some people like that "New car scent",  "Got to have it in my hands now mentallity" but PS3 Has never Been in short supply even if autofficially applied.  It's called ONLINE shopping, Cotsco and B.J whole sale.  It's always been available at trickle cause no one really wants it (cept fans) and Euro Funds is higher than the U.S. dollar so it is always be in abundance in Europe.  If you really want one and you play games you CAN find it.  Enjoy..

Careful, don't tell that to the PS3 fans. They seemed to be opposed to facts, and will shoot you down, despite the absolute proof that PS3 has been available at amazon and many other online stores for months now.

I don't see how any logical person can possibly look at 45,000 sales a week and actually equate that to shortages. Especially when you consider that they've sold almost twice that in earlier months this year. Do people TRUELY believe that Sony just halved their supply out of the blue? Sony fans simply refuse to believe that PS3 sales are finally falling back down to earth, and will prbably still be using the shortage excuse even in August, when PS3 sales are still lagging. It immediately puts the poor PS3 sales off the hook.

If Sony IS really short on supply in the US, and only managing to ship 45,000 units in a week, then they are simply doing it on purpose. No multi billion dollar company could be somehow held back to only shipping that little consoles. And if they are, they sure won't be a serious competitor for long.

Actually, Amazon has been out of stock the vast majority of the time. What you see for sale are other retailers selling the system, often at much higher prices.

If the Wii suddenly started selling 45,000 units, it would be clear there is a shortage. Shortage does not mean nothing is selling, it means that sales aren't reaching their full potential, because demand is higher than supply. Sony can only produce PS3s as long as they have components. Once they hit the FY targets, they will be low on components. So, when they hit the FY target before March ended, they couldn't produce normal numbers of units to compensate for demand. Clearly sales of the console are going to slow in the summer, but that doesn't mean they aren't still influenced by lack of demand. The PS3 could have gone from selling 90k per week to 60k per week, which would still be a summer drop but without shortages.

If you're denying shortages, are you calling Sony, WalMart, Amazon, Gamestop etc etc liars? If so, just say that outright, that you are saying that every major retailer is lying.