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jarrod on 25 May 2010
MikeB said:
The Wii and DS were really dominating in Japan until now. Recently the PS3 has gained quite a bit of steam for Japan, Japanese developers/publishers will need some time to adjust to this, but I think we will see more and better efforts in the future (the 360 can also indirectly benefit from this as it's a non-factor for Japan).

You're overselling it a bit.  Yes PS3's recovered some (it's no longer looking like GameCube sales wise, which is exactly where it was pre-Slim), and it's generally tied with Wii now weekly, but there's not going to be an overwhelming developer shift in any direction.  It's basically too late in the gen for that, what you'll see is developers continue along the current course until they can refigure for next gen (starting with 3DS this fall, which will likely suck up the most support).



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DirtyP2002 on 25 May 2010
MikeB said:
I don't agree, Europe and North America are both bigger than Japan. Japan is however again over-represented this generation, Nintendo games including the most popular franchise in history Mario. The top 10 of worldwide sales this gen is dominated by Nintendo!

Add to that game series like Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo and Japan representation this gen is over the top.

Although I agree the technically most impressive games so far this gen have come from western teams, with games like Killzone, Uncharted and God of War. Also for distinguishing efforts with games like Heavy Rain, LittleBigPlanet and Warhawk western developers are performing well.


So Gran Turismo, MGS, Final Fantasy and Mario are new IPs? Read the OP before you answer.

Thank you



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huaxiong90 on 25 May 2010

Oops...I didn't pay attention to the bit about FFXIII. I'll revise my post.



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disolitude on 25 May 2010
Slimebeast said:
disolitude said:
 

You can...but does that pass as fun gameplay these days?

What happens when you are busy killing and she decides to break a few crates open and take the first aid spray in there? :)

I've played a few hours of RE5 but I didn't know for sure that she actually opens the crates and takes stuff. I suspected she does though. Does she really?


lol. yes she does. You have to keep her on a a short leash...



Smeags on 25 May 2010

Wii games -

Western Games (21):

A Boy and His Blob
Boom Blox
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Reflex Edition
de Blob
Guitar Hero III
Guitar Hero: World Tour
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Metroid Prime Trilogy
Rabbids Go Home
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Red Steel
Red Steel 2
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
The House of the Dead: Overkill
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10
Bit.Trip Beat
LostWinds
LostWinds: Winter of the Melodias
Swords and Soldiers
World of Goo

Japanese Games (33):

Animal Crossing: City Folk
Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat
Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2
Endless Ocean
Endless Ocean: Blue World
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Klonoa
Little King's Story
Mario Kart Wii
Metal Slug Anthology
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
No More Heroes
No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle
Muramasa: The Demon Blade
Okami
Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles
Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles
Sonic & the Black Knight
Sonic & the Secret Rings
Sonic Unleashed
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Super Paper Mario
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Wario Land: Shake It!
WarioWare: Smooth Moves
Wii Fit
Wii Fit Plus
Wii Sports
Wii Sports Resort
Pokemon Rumble

I'm happy with my collection, and even though it's a Nintendo console with (lots of) Nintendo games, I have plenty of Western games as well which I thoroughly enjoy. My DS collection, however, is much more skewed on the Japanese side of things.



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c0rd on 25 May 2010
DirtyP2002 said:
MikeB said:
I don't agree, Europe and North America are both bigger than Japan. Japan is however again over-represented this generation, Nintendo games including the most popular franchise in history Mario. The top 10 of worldwide sales this gen is dominated by Nintendo!

Add to that game series like Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo and Japan representation this gen is over the top.

Although I agree the technically most impressive games so far this gen have come from western teams, with games like Killzone, Uncharted and God of War. Also for distinguishing efforts with games like Heavy Rain, LittleBigPlanet and Warhawk western developers are performing well.


So Gran Turismo, MGS, Final Fantasy and Mario are new IPs? Read the OP before you answer.

Thank you

So you're just comparing new IP's from Japan to the new IP's from the west?

How was this any different last gen? Are you only speaking for consoles? Because if not, I think the west dominated in terms of new IP's even more last gen.

If we're talking exclusively consoles, it's only reflecting how the PC developers have jumped onto consoles. I don't see why that would be anything to brag about. (Oh, as well as Japan jumping onto handhelds)



jarrod on 25 May 2010

Top 10 "new IP" releases this gen, only 1 IP (ie: top release) per list...

 

Japanese developed

  1. [Wii] Wii Sports (Nintendo EAD) 62.64m
  2. [DS] Nintendogs (Nintendo EAD) 23.69m
  3. [DS] Brain-Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day (Nintendo NSD) 19.69m
  4. [DS] Big Brain Academy (Nintendo EAD) 6.46m
  5. [DS] Professor Layton and the Curious Village (Level-5) 4.58m
  6. [DS] Cooking Mama (Office Create) 4.41m
  7. [DS] Flash Focus: Vision Training in Minutes a Day (Namco) 3.70m
  8. [DS] Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo SPD) 3.22m
  9. [DS] Clubhouse Games (Agenda) 3.15m
  10. [DS] Personal Trainer: Cooking (indies-zero) 3.06m

 

Western developed

  1. [360] Gears of War (Epic Games) 6.05m
  2. [360] Assassin's Creed (Ubisoft Montreal) 4.86m
  3. [PS3] Resistance: Fall of Man (Insomniac Games) 3.69m
  4. [Wii] Carnival Games (Cat Daddy Games) 3.63m
  5. [PS3] MotorStorm (Evolution Studios) 3.52m
  6. [PS3] LittleBig Planet (Media Molecule) 3.41m
  7. [PS3] Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (Naughty Dog Software) 3.23m
  8. [Wii] EA Sports Active (EA Vancouver) 3.09m
  9. [Wii Just Dance (Ubisoft Paris) 3.03m
  10. [DS] Imagine: Babyz (Visual Impact) 2.78m


S.T.A.G.E. on 25 May 2010
AbbathTheGrim said:
I don't see Western developers making Japanese flavored games so putting them to fight becomes pretty much pointless to me. I love both Western and Jap games.

It's amazing. Western devs were bashed harshly last gen for their RPG's and some action titles. Now look at them. It's not pointless...it's just looking at offerings from the west and Japan. This is regardless of genre.



S.T.A.G.E. on 25 May 2010
Joelcool7 said:

This varies based on platform. On my 360 all but one game is western but on my Wii its all but 3 games are Japanese. I think this generation more evened it out. Now when you say Western you mean pretty much everything but Japan. But lets be fare isn't it more American? Europe seems to be catching up as well but Canadian and US publishers seem to be increasing their presence every generation.

 

There are plenty of Japanese games on the 360. 



noname2200 on 25 May 2010
Killergran said:
noname2200 said:
61 Japanese games, 40 Western games this generation.

So anecdotally, it appears not. On the other hand, this ratio was probably more lopsided previous generations, so...meh?

Is that your gaming collection, or million sellers, or what?

I just can't figure out where those figures figure.

That's just my collection.

 

I hadn't realized how many games I've bought this gen...it's scary!