Well I dont get uptight when family guy depicts christ and in actuality, alot of it is quite funny, so I think its a good idea to depict Muhammad, hell we should even have a thread where we draw pictures and post em!
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| Kamal said: "When u attack Black people, they call it racism. When u attack Jewish people, they call it anti-semetism. When u attack women, they call it sexism. When u attack homosexuality, they call it intolerance. When u attack ur Country, they call it treason. treason. When u attack a religious sect, they call it hate. But when u ...attack the Prophet(saws), they call it freedom of speech!" This is what I feel with the situation, I agree with freedom of speech and all but going your way to antagonize them isn't a right way to do it. |
When you attack the extremism of a religious sect, that is freedom of speech.
When you attack the prophet (only, incidentally, the Muslim prophet), it's heresy and blasphemy and you need to die. Obviously not all Muslims think this. Not even 1%. But there are people who do, and they have power.
Make an annual "Draw Jesus" day, and see if America, Britain, France, Italy, Germany, Spain, pretty much the whole of Europe and all of Southern Africa block Facebook for a month.
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Not just that, their own constitution too. But then again they are 159th out of 175 in the freedom of press index, so perhaps it doesn't mean much to them (source).
Thunderf00t's getting pretty pissed off too about this ban in Pakistan. But then again I'm pretty sure draw Muhammad day was his idea, it's like his job to get pissed off about it.
They have Jesus pictured as a pimp, they have buddha as a drug addict.....They have one picture of Muhammed and there are thousands of death threats.
Where is the equality? Even freedom of speech is restricted because of a minority of idiots...
EDIT: Really really good video btw. The west will not tolerate those who oppose freedom of speech!
Kantor said:
When you attack the extremism of a religious sect, that is freedom of speech. When you attack the prophet (only, incidentally, the Muslim prophet), it's heresy and blasphemy and you need to die. Obviously not all Muslims think this. Not even 1%. But there are people who do, and they have power. Make an annual "Draw Jesus" day, and see if America, Britain, France, Italy, Germany, Spain, pretty much the whole of Europe and all of Southern Africa block Facebook for a month. |
Your right 99% of muslims don't think this but that doesn't take the fact it is the wrong way to go about this, blatantly annoying both moderate and extremist muslims.
I can understand whats going on and I see the reasons for you guys are doing this but it will only make things worser, it is better to take things a step at a time.
What kind of point are you trying to bring out with this exactly? The middle east is still very sensitive attitude towards religion so if blocking facebook is a way of not provoking extremists who may or may not attack as a rebuttal so be it.
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Post a picture of muhammad thread....
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=109688&page=1&str=1012321554#
" Rebellion Against Tyrants Is Obedience To God"
Everytime I draw him it just turns into a black box with censored over it.
Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita
Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte
Sugu yoko de waratteita
Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo
I will never leave you
| Kamal said: "When u attack Black people, they call it racism. When u attack Jewish people, they call it anti-semetism. When u attack women, they call it sexism. When u attack homosexuality, they call it intolerance. When u attack ur Country, they call it treason. treason. When u attack a religious sect, they call it hate. But when u ...attack the Prophet(saws), they call it freedom of speech!" This is what I feel with the situation, I agree with freedom of speech and all but going your way to antagonize them isn't a right way to do it. |
Sorry, but how are people who are drawing Muhammad automatically attacking him?
If I punch a black person for being black, I am attacking them. If I make inappropriate sexist remarks to a woman, I am attacking her.
Drawing Muhammed is not attacking him. If I force people to not accept him as their prophet, then I'm violating freedom of speech.
| Kamal said: "When u attack Black people, they call it racism. When u attack Jewish people, they call it anti-semetism. When u attack women, they call it sexism. When u attack homosexuality, they call it intolerance. When u attack ur Country, they call it treason. treason. When u attack a religious sect, they call it hate. But when u ...attack the Prophet(saws), they call it freedom of speech!" This is what I feel with the situation, I agree with freedom of speech and all but going your way to antagonize them isn't a right way to do it. |
The main problem being that the extremists from those religions aren't thrown out of whack by this sort of thing. Lots of cartoons lampoon Jesus, but none of them have been threatened with death because of it (or at least not that i'm aware of)
It does feel wrong to pick on Islam like this, but the extremists are bringing it upon themselves, by being more blatantly radical than radicals from other faiths (which are definitely there, just not as publicized in a lot of cases, even when they murder like that guy who killed George Tiller)
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Kamal said:
Your right 99% of muslims don't think this but that doesn't take the fact it is the wrong way to go about this, blatantly annoying both moderate and extremist muslims. I can understand whats going on and I see the reasons for you guys are doing this but it will only make things worser, it is better to take things a step at a time. What kind of point are you trying to bring out with this exactly? The middle east is still very sensitive attitude towards religion so if blocking facebook is a way of not provoking extremists who may or may not attack as a rebuttal so be it. |
No moderate Muslim should be annoyed by this at all. It's a bunch of people drawing the Prophet. You can't threaten somebody with death for drawing your Prophet. This isn't intended to offend Islam in any way, but just the fact that so many people are getting offended by it is a sign that something like this had to be done. It would just be nice if more Muslims took part.
It's not a way of reconciling extremists with freedom of speech. It's a way of showing extremists that we don't care about their death threats. Make a Draw Jesus Day if you like. Pretty much nobody will be at all offended. You will receive no death threats. Hell, American media makes fun of Jesus all the time.
In my opinion, and I genuinely mean no offence here, if Islam wants to mature as a religion, its followers have to accept that not everybody agrees with the Qur'an, and that everybody is free, if they so wish, to disagree with it, and to break its laws. Judaism is there. Christianity is there. Hinduism. Buddhism. Judging by the reactions of some people (granted, the small minority), Islam isn't. Disagree with extremists, denounce them, curse them, and most of all, ridicule them, and the Islamophobia which unfortunately still exists in the Western world will start to fade away.
I know Islam isn't a hateful religion. Everyone in this thread and, I would hope, everyone in that Facebook group knows it. But when a country's government blocks an entire website because it contains drawings of the Prophet, what are people going to think?
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