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Cross-X on 21 May 2010
Seece said:

Whenever someone says "this game will have legs" it usually sounds like the same old tripe. In regards to most 360 games too.

But I truly believe Alan Wake will get good word of mouth, some games I have expected to be a solid 90+ this gen, Bioshock 2, Splinter Cell ect, after playing I realise .. no, they were never going to be 90+. This is the first game this gen, that's score I don't agree with. I can't fathom how a reviewer would give this 6/10 because it took five years. IT'S IRRELEVENT TO THE FINAL PRODUCT.

You might not like horrors, you might not like shooters, but play Alan Wake, and you'll see it deserves no less than 7.5/10. All these 7's and 6's are from reviewers who review from entirely their opinion. Which never makes for a good review.

From Edge:

"But while the plot moves with all the pace of a pulp paperback, the gameplay fails to keep pace. The solid combat struggles to develop beyond throwing more enemies at Wake, puzzles are rarely more than perfunctory, and the set-pieces only really set the pulse racing in the game’s final hours. Later in the adventure, for instance, the darkness diversifies by possessing inanimate objects. Combine harvesters, monster trucks and, heck, even demonic parade floats are fine, but car tyres and oil drums? Even the use of light begins to run out of juice once all of the light-emitting weapons have been introduced, which happens early on.

Ultimately, Alan Wake is every bit as compulsive and satisfying as the fiction on which it riffs, but it also runs the risk of being equally forgettable. It’s a game that delivers the requisite number of twists, turns and thrills, but the only real revelations take place on those scattered manuscript pages. As a franchise, Alan Wake’s future is assured – Remedy is already working on downloadable content and has plans for a sequel – but next time around the action will need to keep pace with the deft plotting."

7/10

So you reckon Edge's review is from a reviewer who's review is from entirely their opinion?

If you have read Edge's review, they'll compliment the game for clever story telling but what I posted above is one of the criticisim Edge mentions. Gameplay. Ultimately, gameplay is the most important thing for games. They're saying gameplay is boring and doesn't stand up to the same level of story telling. And in fact, most reviews criticize AW for repetitive gameplay.

And no one is gonna play games which are not their type of genre. If a person doesn't like a horror game, why should they play it? Just to prove that it doesn't deserve anything below a 7.5? That's like me saying "You might not like RTS games, but go play Starcraft and you'll see it deserves no less than 8/10." How is someone who doesn't like RTS games supposed to enjoy playing Starcraft?



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Ping_ii on 21 May 2010

Hahay seem like only yester day where we see Alan wake hype all over the net....whatever happened.

OT: It really is sad wake sold so low with all the hype and remedy is also praying this game does them wonders so hopefully Wake gets boost from word of mouth.



ArcticGabe on 21 May 2010

With zero TV promotions, I guess the answer is yes.
TV ads are expensive these days...



thismeintiel on 21 May 2010

@ starcraft

There's no way SC:C is going to reach the 3 mil that the original SC sold on the X-Box. It won't even reach 2 mil. In the end, it will most likely fall in between SC:DA (1.17 mil) and SC:PT (1.42 mil).



 

libellule on 21 May 2010
loy310 said:
This whole scenario reminds of "Too Human," all hype and then BUST....MEGA BOMB.
Hopefully the American sales come out in its favor. It's a shame when a game that so much passion went into developing fail commercially, but i always thought that the hype surrounding this game was way too big.

come on, AW is far better than Too Human. It will sell better and already got better review.

There is just another "bad thing" coming agaisnt AW and it is called RDR ... 



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Mr Puggsly on 21 May 2010

Others tends to have good legs. So we'll have to wait and see how it performs in the long run.

NA is where the game is gonna perform best.



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SOLIDSNAKE08 on 21 May 2010

this game reminds me of a certain game called too human.



GodOfWar_3ever on 21 May 2010
Garnett said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Garnett said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:

Dude, how is this even relevant here ? its way off-topic.

These games were hyped, yes..because they are amazing games...

UC2, GoW 3, LBP all are 90+ on meta and overall fan reaction has been extremely positive, unlike games like GTA IV which received a lot of meh reactions from fans.

Why exactly is GoW 3 over-hyped ? It delivered on everything it promised imo, you haven't even played ANY GoW game and you label it over-hyped... Why ? And what position are you in to say that it is..

If my memory serves me correctly, you are the same guy who said Uncharted 2's graphics were average and the textures were bad. You also said Dante's Inferno had a better story than GoW despite not playing GoW.

You continuously say these type of things which you aren't in any position to say and get away with it....

On topic though,

Games like Alan Wake, inFamous and all which were pretty hyped and didn't get the review scores as fans expected are still awesome enough for some, but not so for others.

AW sales are mildly disappointing, yes. ioi expects about 150k from America first week...so around 250k Worldwide isn't bad and it will eventually get to a million...or even more if it has insane legs. Which is brilliant for a horror/thriller title that isn't Resident Evil.

1. no one said that AW is suppoed to be the best game ever with the best graphics, unlike those games above in the read. AW had little to NO hype on the internet.

2. GoW3 is a good game im sure, but people are acting like its a new Mario 64. GoW3 is the least hyped game among that list.

3. I said UC2 had average graphics, it was just colorful and yes DI actually has a Hero that isnt always pissed off and some big brute idiot.

4. Im in no position to say my opinion? Gee Wiz most of the people on this site say their opinion like its fact. I guess since im a 360 fan im wrong for that.

 

AW will do fine in the long run, like a stripper it will have long legs.

That is just false.

True...but you have no idea about what happens in God of War. In the surface, Kratos is a big bad brute that is always pissed off...but main character =/= story

You can say your opinion..but when that opinion is expressed when you haven't played the game in question (GoW 3) then what you say cannot be taken seriously as,

(a) You don't know what the hell the game is about or how good/bad it is

(b) Therefore you clearly cannot judge whether the game deserved/lived up to the hype it got. Hence, you are in no position to say that.

This is way off topic btw..

I believe that too...guess we have something in common

1. Prove me wrong, show me people saying its the best game ever and its the best graphics ever,not just one guy but i want threads full of people saying it and graphics are just opinions, like it or not UC2 doesnt have good graphics imo.

2. I dont care if Kratos has a story like AW, if i cant relate to him why should i give 2 shits about him?

3. I have played GoW1 and 2, i found them both boring as i knew nothing about gods back then. I know the story hes out for his family, blah blah blah cliche storyline. The gameplay in GoW isnt awesome so the story draws people, and im a person who cares for gameplay not story. People who like GoW also like MGS4, they both have basic  gameplay elements with a story as the main focus. Of course its all imo.

This is getting WAY off topic.

It may not have had the most hype on VGC but everywhere else, there was a lot of hype.

Saying Uncharted 2 doesn't have good graphics is like saying water isn't wet. There is a tweak called the "next gen filter" in Uncharted 2's in-game store which turns everything Brown like most games this gen. Play with that turned on and tell me "its just colourful".

Where the hell have I said that ? and I only brought GoW's story up because you said that its inferior to DI's story even though you've never played GoW.

Not according to this post. http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=3245114

Thats pretty much what everyone in the internet would know about GoW...and hes most definitely not "out" for his family...in fact he doesn't give 2 shits about what happened to his family after GoW 1.

Check this video out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BoHu8FTyxk 

You were saying ?

I'm increasingly beginning to think that you're doing this for the lulz...

I'm most definitely NOT replying to you again because this has gone too far off topic. 

AW will sell more than a million in the long run.



Seece on 21 May 2010
Cross-X said:
Seece said:

Whenever someone says "this game will have legs" it usually sounds like the same old tripe. In regards to most 360 games too.

But I truly believe Alan Wake will get good word of mouth, some games I have expected to be a solid 90+ this gen, Bioshock 2, Splinter Cell ect, after playing I realise .. no, they were never going to be 90+. This is the first game this gen, that's score I don't agree with. I can't fathom how a reviewer would give this 6/10 because it took five years. IT'S IRRELEVENT TO THE FINAL PRODUCT.

You might not like horrors, you might not like shooters, but play Alan Wake, and you'll see it deserves no less than 7.5/10. All these 7's and 6's are from reviewers who review from entirely their opinion. Which never makes for a good review.

From Edge:

"But while the plot moves with all the pace of a pulp paperback, the gameplay fails to keep pace. The solid combat struggles to develop beyond throwing more enemies at Wake, puzzles are rarely more than perfunctory, and the set-pieces only really set the pulse racing in the game’s final hours. Later in the adventure, for instance, the darkness diversifies by possessing inanimate objects. Combine harvesters, monster trucks and, heck, even demonic parade floats are fine, but car tyres and oil drums? Even the use of light begins to run out of juice once all of the light-emitting weapons have been introduced, which happens early on.

Ultimately, Alan Wake is every bit as compulsive and satisfying as the fiction on which it riffs, but it also runs the risk of being equally forgettable. It’s a game that delivers the requisite number of twists, turns and thrills, but the only real revelations take place on those scattered manuscript pages. As a franchise, Alan Wake’s future is assured – Remedy is already working on downloadable content and has plans for a sequel – but next time around the action will need to keep pace with the deft plotting."

7/10

So you reckon Edge's review is from a reviewer who's review is from entirely their opinion?

If you have read Edge's review, they'll compliment the game for clever story telling but what I posted above is one of the criticisim Edge mentions. Gameplay. Ultimately, gameplay is the most important thing for games. They're saying gameplay is boring and doesn't stand up to the same level of story telling. And in fact, most reviews criticize AW for repetitive gameplay.

And no one is gonna play games which are not their type of genre. If a person doesn't like a horror game, why should they play it? Just to prove that it doesn't deserve anything below a 7.5? That's like me saying "You might not like RTS games, but go play Starcraft and you'll see it deserves no less than 8/10." How is someone who doesn't like RTS games supposed to enjoy playing Starcraft?

Edg'es review isn't gospel, and I wasn't talking about them in the first place?



 

SOLIDSNAKE08 on 21 May 2010
axumblade said:
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
this game reminds me of a certain game called too human.

You are aware that Too Human only sold 35k in the "Others" category for its first week right? Wait for U.S. numbers before making ridiculous claims like this. :)

to me this is the same thing because this game is 100 times better than too human and its one of the 360's best looking game man and its got more hype and userbase on its side but your right im speaking too soon. lets wait till america or maybe even adjustments for euorpe. these sales could be wrong.