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TruckOSaurus said:

Let me put it this way, Kefka would have sucked if during the whole game you were going after Ghestal and the Empire and then at the end they would have sprung him out of nowhere saying : "Here's your final boss, he's really evil, take our word for it"

Jumpin said:
A lot of people don't seem to realize that Ultimecia was in possession of Edea, Rinoa, and Adel at various points in the game. This is fairly clearly explained during the game.

Nothing was clearly explained in that game.



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noname2200 said:

Nothing was clearly explained in that game.

So when tells you that she was possessed by Ultimecia, then joins your party; you didn't understand that? This was over your head?



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Jumpin said:
A lot of people don't seem to realize that Ultimecia was in possession of Edea, Rinoa, and Adel at various points in the game. This is fairly clearly explained during the game. She wasn't a villain that just popped up at the end of the game.

Essentially the story goes as follows:

Distant Past
1. In the past, the God Hyne was defeated and his powers were split up among the sorceresses.
2. Over time, sorceresses passed on their powers to successors, and they became more powerful as certain sorceresses inherited the powers of 2 sorceresses - this is seen towards the end of the game when viewing the history of the sorceresses, you battle multiple weak ones, then gradually fewre but stronger ones.

Laguna's Time
3. By the time of Laguna's youth, when Raine and Julia were still alive, there were only two Sorceresses, Edea and Adel.
4. Adel mysteriously disappears from history; this was because Laguna locked her up in cryo-storage and shot her into space. Adel's powers do not pass on.
5. Dr. Odine begins creating the Ellone Emulator.
* In the future, Ultimecia is attempting to gain unlimited power, she can go back in time as far as this period using Odine's Ellone Emulator. She can only go as far back as the Emulator's existence.
6. Edea bumps into Ultimecia at the orphanage, and when she absorbs her, she realizes that the power is hers, and that Ultimecia is a wrathful figure from the future with intentions.
* It is here that SEED is born in order to battle the sorceress.

Squall's Time
7. Ultimecia transfers her consciousness back in time and possesses Edea, Ultimecia is now effectively using Sorceress Edea's body. Her goal is to find Sorceress Adel, and to absorb her to unify the ancient powers of Hyne (kind of like how Highlander unified the knowledge of the Immortals by killing the others off).
8. When Ultimecia can't find Adel, she discovers she has to go further back in time, and seeks out the real Ellone who lived in the time of Adel.
9. Adel is discovered, Ultimecia uses Seifer and Rinoa to retrieve her body from space.
10. When Adel's body is found, Ultimecia possesses and awakens her, and uses time compression to bring her body to the future. Time compression allows the transportation of more than just consciousness, but matter as well.

Future:
11. Ultimecia somehow becomes corrupt, SEED of the future attempt to stop her, but are destroyed.
12. She sends her consciousness back in time to find the rest (the stronger part) of the sorceress powers (in Adel's body).
13. She can now merge with body of Adel and resurrect the full powers of Hyne.
14. Squall and company defeat her.
15. Her body is thrown back in time, and she wanders into sorceress Edea who absorbs her power.

yes I know, that's how it goes. I'm just saying for the most part, for me atleast, I don't like most FF end villains, as they don't have motives or good ones IMO. That goes with 8,9,10
The villains I liked better were Seifer, Edea, and Jecht I found interesting because they weren't completely evil, and that's how I like mah villains :D.

Although, I think you were aiming in the general direction. And not necessarily at me

but that's why I won't agree, that she's one of the worst  villains in the history of literay blah blah... like someone stated.





Jumpin said:

noname2200 said:

Nothing was clearly explained in that game.

So when tells you that she was possessed by Ultimecia, then joins your party; you didn't understand that? This was over your head?

When you have over a decade of debate and entire websites devoted to trying to decipher what a game is getting at, it means that the game is not clearly explained.  Tough concept to grasp, I know, but there you have it.



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jumpin ws in my mind, thts why i like her. she hd determination & did tht much throughout ff8 timeline.

lots of u jst hate on ff8 for no reason,



thelifatree said:

yes I know, that's how it goes. I'm just saying for the most part, for me atleast, I don't like most FF end villains, as they don't have motives. That goes with 8,9,10 

The villains I liked better were Seifer, Edea, and Jecht I found interesting because they weren't completely evil, and that's how I like mah villains :D.

but that's why I won't agree, that she's one of the worst  villains in the history of literay blah blah... like someone stated.

Well, Edea = Ultimecia until the second disk, and Seifer was Ultimecia's servant who was executing her plan.



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noname2200 said:
Jumpin said:

noname2200 said:

Nothing was clearly explained in that game.

So when tells you that she was possessed by Ultimecia, then joins your party; you didn't understand that? This was over your head?

When you have over a decade of debate and entire websites devoted to trying to decipher what a game is getting at, it means that the game is not clearly explained.  Tough concept to grasp, I know, but there you have it.

You didn't answer my question: So when tells you that she was possessed by Ultimecia, then joins your party; you didn't understand that? This was over your head?



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

Jumpin said:

You didn't answer my question: So when tells you that she was possessed by Ultimecia, then joins your party; you didn't understand that? This was over your head?

Ah, I see what the problem here is.  You took a clearly tongue-in-cheek reference to the game as a whole as a response to your particular point.

I can see where the confusion comes from.  I guess.



She reminded me of angemon. So fuck no.