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It met projections but in a thread i read some sony guy thought the PS3 was offset.Sony is still losing 891 million. how are they still losing that much?  how much profit as a whole did sony make? Oh and do you think a pricecut will come this year to reach the 15 million projected?



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I dont think they're happy. I think they're glad.



CGI-Quality said:
To be honest, 891 million to a company like Sony isn't as bad as it sounds, especially considering the PS3 hardware itself is apparently profiting at this point. Things are looking WAY up for Sony, and with the D-listing of the PS2 from NPD, I imagine all focus will now go to PSP and the PS3.

so did most of those losses come from the Ps3?



the 891 million loss was for the total electronics division which also includes vaio and walkman if I'm not mistaken.



I forgot which thread it was but someone stated (with a link) that the losses from PS3 specifically were around 400-550M (can't remember the exact number stated).



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CGI-Quality said:
SpartenOmega117 said:
CGI-Quality said:
To be honest, 891 million to a company like Sony isn't as bad as it sounds, especially considering the PS3 hardware itself is apparently profiting at this point. Things are looking WAY up for Sony, and with the D-listing of the PS2 from NPD, I imagine all focus will now go to PSP and the PS3.

so did most of those losses come from the Ps3?

Unlikely. They have sevearl factors (I'd imagine) that could be contributing factors.

also a new revision of the Cell processor going to 22nm scale! will be soon released at IBM

"

IBM’s effort in shrinking the Cell/B.E. is done solely with Sony in mind. As the PlayStation 3 is the largest application of Cell/B.E. technology, IBM apparently tailored the smaller chip for cooler and cheaper consoles, rather than for increased performance and functionality. Such is hinted at an IBM document, stating, “To guarantee the proper operation of existing gaming software, the exact cycle-by-cycle machine behavior, including operating frequency, must be preserved.”

So

it would make the PS3 even cheaper! to produce

 

 



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

CGI-Quality said:
To be honest, 891 million to a company like Sony isn't as bad as it sounds, especially considering the PS3 hardware itself is apparently profiting at this point. Things are looking WAY up for Sony, and with the D-listing of the PS2 from NPD, I imagine all focus will now go to PSP and the PS3.

 Are you kidding?  In this economy any company losing 891 million US dollars is bad.  Good spin though.



bonkers555 said:
CGI-Quality said:
To be honest, 891 million to a company like Sony isn't as bad as it sounds, especially considering the PS3 hardware itself is apparently profiting at this point. Things are looking WAY up for Sony, and with the D-listing of the PS2 from NPD, I imagine all focus will now go to PSP and the PS3.

 Are you kidding?  In this economy any company losing 891 million US dollars is bad.  Good spin though.


Thing is, the company didnt go 900m in the red. That section of the company did due to investments that they see profitable down the line. Just a small segment of the company did those numbers, while they as a whole saw profit.

"Analysts on average expect Sony to post an operating profit of 209.3 billion yen for the year to March 2011. StarMine SmartEstimates, which predict earnings by putting more weight on the recent forecasts of top-rated analysts, put the number five percent higher at 219.9 billion yen.

For the year just ended, Sony expects an operating profit of 32 billion yen ($350 million), up from its previous estimate of a loss of 30 billion yen. This was partly due to a recovery at its cellphone joint venture[...]"

And for them to expect a 209-220 billion yen for this coming year, as to the 32 billion yen this past year. Id say CGI is correct in his statement that "Sony is looking WAY up". So it's not a spin afterall.



CGI-Quality said:
To be honest, 891 million to a company like Sony isn't as bad as it sounds, especially considering the PS3 hardware itself is apparently profiting at this point. Things are looking WAY up for Sony, and with the D-listing of the PS2 from NPD, I imagine all focus will now go to PSP and the PS3.

I agree. 


Basically I tend to think of it like this.

 

Say you have 2 kids... and they are brilliant Straight A's, both are going to be Doctors.

Then you have your third kid.  Your clearly going to think he's going to be smart too... but he isn't.  He ends up getting D's and F's on his report cards... and you get him some help etc... so now he's getting C+ and B-s. 

He's not going to be a doctor and as "big" of a success as your other children... but your happy that atleast he's on his way to being Ok, and not living with you in the basement until he's 45.



Kasz216 said:
CGI-Quality said:
To be honest, 891 million to a company like Sony isn't as bad as it sounds, especially considering the PS3 hardware itself is apparently profiting at this point. Things are looking WAY up for Sony, and with the D-listing of the PS2 from NPD, I imagine all focus will now go to PSP and the PS3.

I agree. 


Basically I tend to think of it like this.

 

Say you have 2 kids... and they are brilliant Straight A's, both are going to be Doctors.

Then you have your third kid.  Your clearly going to think he's going to be smart too... but he isn't.  He ends up getting D's and F's on his report cards... and you get him some help etc... so now he's getting C+ and B-s. 

He's not going to be a doctor and as "big" of a success as your other children... but your happy that atleast he's on his way to being Ok, and not living with you in the basement until he's 45.

But with a B he'd still be able to do charity work, volunteer in the 3rd world. He might even start a successful business or become a great football player that gives tons of money to orphans. He could become and artist or an actor that makes millions of dollars that he chose to spend on his ageing father and on research to improve the health care of the country. So now tell me, which kid is more successful? The two who spend a lifetime paying the bills from medical school, or the one helping the world become a better place? ;D