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@ shissy

it hit .65 million a week as soon as supply reached .65 million



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leo-j said:
John its not going to make it to 30 MILLION by 08's end.

I trust insomniac.

it will definitely sell more then 30 mil in 08



Nice post it is realistic of a goal hwever it really depends on a couple of factors. Wii fit if it is as sucessful nintendo is gambling with that game in the US but after a while it will have legs i know im getting it god knows a fitness game is for me i need it lol.



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DMeisterJ said:
I guess I should rephrase what I'm saying. The PS2 winning last gen was different. It wasn't marketed as a "casual" gaming machinge, it had many more "hardcore" games. It's highest selling game wasn't a casual game but GTA, the most hated game of most of the mainstream Nintendo is seeking. My post was to point out that by the system's highest selling game being a casual one, developers may believe that casual games sell better than hardcore games (Which is true, Wii Play, Wii Sports, and if John Lucas is right, Wii Fit) which will cement that Nintendo will be seen as a casual game system by devs and then they will make casual games for the systems. I don't think that Mario, Smash, and Zelda will die, but I do think it will be a ton more casual games than now if the Wii hits those kinds of numbers and PS3 and 360 lack to grow in the wake of the Wii.

 Actually, GTA had immense casual appeal. I spent more than a couple evening with a bunch of friends playing GTA in a casual fashion. It went something like this:

 One person picks up the controller and steals a car. He then proceeds to drive around doing crazy stunts until they die. Controller passes to the next person and game is reloaded. Second player steals a taxi and does missions at top speed, smashing into whatever traffic gets in the way until the taxi explodes. Player three picks up the controller and reloads. He then proceeds to steal a car and go on a murderous rampage, evading the police for as long as he can until he finally dies.

 I think you get the pattern. The point is that the game was played quite casually by both girls and boys, hardcore gamers and casuals. The missions weren't relevant, most of the time.

 A lot of these "hardcore" games aren't as hardcore as they're made out to be.



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If Ninty can double its production in the coming year then it will easily surpass 60 million by the end of 08



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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DMeisterJ said:
Gamerace said:
DMeisterJ said:
I guess I should rephrase what I'm saying. The PS2 winning last gen was different. It wasn't marketed as a "casual" gaming machinge, it had many more "hardcore" games. It's highest selling game wasn't a casual game but GTA, the most hated game of most of the mainstream Nintendo is seeking. My post was to point out that by the system's highest selling game being a casual one, developers may believe that casual games sell better than hardcore games (Which is true, Wii Play, Wii Sports, and if John Lucas is right, Wii Fit) which will cement that Nintendo will be seen as a casual game system by devs and then they will make casual games for the systems. I don't think that Mario, Smash, and Zelda will die, but I do think it will be a ton more casual games than now if the Wii hits those kinds of numbers and PS3 and 360 lack to grow in the wake of the Wii.

More casual games sure, but that doesn't mean there will be fewer 'core' games. Just fewer as a percentage of the total market. Besides for everyone one MSG4, they same $ and manpower could make 10 'casual' games so a flood of them doesn't represent a huge divergence from 'core' games. Although I hope we see much better quality games than so far.

Also GTA is very appealing to the casual market.That's how it got 15m in sales! GTA on Wii would be huge!! Ever play Godfather on the WII? Great fun with the Wii controls and that's nothing compared to GTA.


Is your grandmom going to want to drive around with a prostitute in her car? Want to shoot people, want to play extremly long RPGs? NO. Nintendo is aiming to have everyone play the Wii, not just you but your bros + sis, plus mom, dad, aunt, uncle, grandparents, etc. Many "hardcore" games won't appeal to them, and games like GTA they PROBABLY won't like. Also, how are games like that going to fare on a system that has (in terms of percent) a lot of casual games. Developers WILL be scared about games selling on a "casual" platform.

I don't really know why I'm arguing on this. The Wii won't sell forty million in a year. It won't get to 500 million life time.


 Existing hardcore gamers will still like hardcore games and I'd say that there is a non-negligible chance that some member of your formerly non-gaming family will take interest in a "hardcore" title at some point if they already own a console for casual games.

The idea is to make gaming into something that nearly everyone does. I mean that in the same sense as television is something that nearly everyone watches. We all watch different shows. Some shows attract a broad audience but that doesn't prevent shows that only attract a niche audience from being successful too.



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Dear Mr Lucas: I really disagree with you & I think you are slightly insane.

The Wii is unlikley to reach 20m by the start of 2008, as you still seem so sure of, more like 17-18.

 Yes the Wii will remain huge next year, but it is not going to sell 60m in the next 12 months! Half that is possible though.

I think you are over-estimating the importance of Wii Fit. Excercise is not new. Excercise gimmicks are not new. Unfit people dont like to excercise. In fact unfit people hate excercise. Once people realise that its not a magic cure and you STILL HAVE TO WORK HARD, in a game or not, it'll trail off. It'll have an initial huge sales, for the first 2 or 3 months, maybe 6, but I dont think it will be particularly huge in the long term, I thin kit'll be a fad.

 The Wii has EASILY won this generation. Its over, end of story, cya later.....But Will the Wii outsell the PS2? Possibly, but its chasing what is still very much a moving target. The Wii will have to move things up a notch and have the complete consistency the PS2 has had to do it. Personally I cant see it happening. The PS2 is still huge the world over with probably another 20-30m sales left to come. I think the Wii has probably shown enough promise to say that it'll beat the (now dead) PS1 though.

240m is crazy talk, 500m should have you commited.

 



Danny, the Wii is selling twice as fast as the PS2, the fact is the Wii will likely accelerate as its price drops and its library gets deeper, and Wii fit will appeal to a lot because its cheap, its expandable and it has media support



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

@ Danny355

If they make wii fit fun enough, then it won't matter if it is hard work. Think of the addiction of a really fun game added to the desire for a fat ass to lose some weight. It is the perfect combination an no exercise gimmick in history has done that. If wii fit isn't fun then it won't be nearly as successful. Either way Americans right now are obsessed with TRYING to be healthy and diet to lose weight. Since most over weight people have obviously failed numerous other diets they would definitely try buying a wii if they really want to be skinny.

There is no way wii fit won't be a success, plus other games will end up using the balance board, so it will sell well for that reason.



Avinash_Tyagi said:
Danny, the Wii is selling twice as fast as the PS2, the fact is the Wii will likely accelerate as its price drops and its library gets deeper, and Wii fit will appeal to a lot because its cheap, its expandable and it has media support

You have such a steep opinion that makes us playstation owners feel like $hit.

Your signature will FAIL as will JOHN LUCAS AND HIS INSANE PREDCTIONS.



 

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