Not at all.


Slimebeast said:
I don't care about the impact on our culture and society. Video games don't influence people very much when it comes to attitudes, moral and such stuff. But I certainly agree on the grown up media part. I want video games to get respect and be seen as a sophisticated expression of culture. |
Games don't entirely influence as society does and culture, but it is a bit disensitizing. Video games do sometimes represent our culture, especially our shallow materialistic culture.
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Let's not fight the rising of the tide here CollectiveCynic. You are implying that sex doesn't cause these games to sell like they do. That's wrong. We could be more worried about the financial state of the industry, and companies like Sony or Capcom, rather than coming up with ways to increase their political correctness and reduce their profits. Sex sells, and it's not hurting anyone, really. If you don't like those games, vote with your wallet, but if the vast majority of gamers do like and buy those games, then who are we to tell them they like the wrong kind of stuff, and its influencing our ...culture. They wouldn't make those games if they didn't sell boatloads, and anything they can do to make a good game sell better, more power to them. I wouldn't tell a rapper not to rap about "bitches" and I won't tell videogames not to show me some leg every now and again. Most of the audience is male anyway, what's wrong with a little fanservice? Will you be going after ecchi anime next? |
Actually the notion of "Sex sells" can hurt how males view women now, they can influence how they would treat and view women in a degrading manner. There's still a strong bit of misogyny in our society, especially for most young adults. I don't mind modeling as a tribute to the beauty of the female form, but it's a different story when the media overly exploits it. The DOA Volleyball games (And the fighting games themselves) are a perfect example of exploiting overkill, a poorly made game with creepy, misogynistic sexuality as it's main selling point. Watching it is fine, but as long as you keep it at a minimum, a craze addiction can lead to bad outcomes.
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The statement/question paradox you've created in the thread title almost made my head explode.
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CollectiveCynic said:
Games don't entirely influence as society does and culture, but it is a bit disensitizing. Video games do sometimes represent our culture, especially our shallow materialistic culture.
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Now it may sound like I am contradicting myself but I gotta give you credit for using the word desensitizing. I agree. That's mainly what media does (not just games but news, TV, movies etc), it desensitizes people to some extent.
| CollectiveCynic said: Actually the notion of "Sex sells" can hurt how males view women now, they can influence how they would treat and view women in a degrading manner. There's still a strong bit of misogyny in our society, especially for most young adults. I don't mind modeling as a tribute to the beauty of the female form, but it's a different story when the media overly exploits it. The DOA Volleyball games (And the fighting games themselves) are a perfect example of exploiting overkill, a poorly made game with creepy, misogynistic sexuality as it's main selling point. Watching it is fine, but as long as you keep it at a minimum, a craze addiction can lead to bad outcomes. |
The notion that "sex sells" is a fact. A fact those in the business of sex don't want to reverse, nor should they want to do so. Sex is in our nature.
Now, I don't buy into the whole "Playing DOA Volleyball makes men misogynistic" theory. It goes along the same incorrect line as "Playing Counterstike trains people to murder and reduces our empathy towards it" theory. People with brains can seperate fantasty from reality, and they don't emulate, or take to heart everything they see on TV(which would be a better place to start, if you really wanted to address this "issue"). We can think, and you don't have to control what we watch, because we again, have the ability to seperate fantasy from reality, as sentient beings.
There is an episode of Penn and Tellers Bullshit, that addresses your theory directly. Youtube it. It's the one about videogames, 2009 season I believe.
I do have a question though, what crazy addiction doesn't lead to a bad outcome?
I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.
NO NO, NO NO NO.
Then again, look at the guys in video games. Usually, they are uber muscular, have square jaws, and have killer mustaches. A real man can't compete with that!!!
that picture of lightning is so detailed you can see her leg hair!
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