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Forums - Gaming - NMH on HD consoles underperforms compared to the Wii version

Wii first 3 weeks sales:

1 -  11,703 
2 -  5,816 
3 -  4,992

Total: 22,511

PS3 first 3 weeks sales:

1 - 14,931 
2 - 3,843 
3 - 1,945


Total: 20,719

X360 first 3 weeks sales:

1 - 14,084 
2 - 2,790
3  - 1,200
 

Total: 18,074 

 

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This proves my point that this game wouldn't sell better in any HD console due to the watered down controls, despite of the graphical treatment.

From now on, sales for each platform shall differ even more since it is a known fact that Wii software usually has more legs than the HD consoles.

This should be enough to stop the wrong discussion that went a few weeks ago about PS3 or 360 being more appropriate to sell a franchise like no more heroes, which they aren't.

 

 



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I don't see how two very late ports selling slightly below the original(with no advertising) is underperforming but spin it as you chose.



Bamboleo said:

Wii first 3 weeks sales:

1 -  11,703 
2 -  5,816 
3 -  4,992

Total: 22,511

PS3 first 3 weeks sales:

1 - 14,931 
2 - 3,843 
3 - 1,945


Total: 20,719

X360 first 3 weeks sales:

1 - 14,084 
2 - 2,790
3  - 1,200
 

Total: 18,074 

 

-----------------\-----------------------------\-----------------------\-------------------------\---------------------\---------- 

This proves my point that this game wouldn't sell better in any HD console due to the watered down controls, despite of the graphical treatment.

From now on, sales for each platform shall differ even more since it is a known fact that Wii software usually has more legs than the HD consoles.

This should be enough to stop the wrong discussion that went a few weeks ago about PS3 or 360 being more appropriate to sell a franchise like no more heroes, which they aren't.

 

 

If they were released at the same time you'd probably be able to make that conclusion, but since this port is incredibly late and a sequel for it actually came out before this port there are other mitigating factors that make it so you cannot in good faith make that conclusion.



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@ Tor

MW: Reflex is also a 2 years old port that managed to get some high numbers with zero advertise after the sequels comes out too.

Of course that there's many factors, but thing is: Wii sells NMH better than HD consoles.

Which wasn't what people wrongly thought on the first week sales.



One data point is too small to draw that conclusion, especially since the data point is Japan (where the game performed so poorly that the sequel is not released there) and where the difference is within the margin of error. Plus, when you add the HD sales together...



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Bamboleo said:
@ Tor

MW: Reflex is also a 2 years old port that managed to get some high numbers with zero advertise after the sequels comes out too.

Of course that there's many factors, but thing is: Wii sells NMH better than HD consoles.

Which wasn't what people wrongly thought on the first week sales.

Oh god not this again.  Reflex didn't even approach the sales of CoD4.  Versus NMH where they are all pretty similar.  Not to mention the Wii version of No More Heroes was released in December, thus the slightly better legs are to be expected.  Although it didn't make the Media Create top 500 for either 2007 (cutoff of 19,653) or 2008.  It made it for Famitsu 20,320 in 2007, absent in 2008 (cutoff 18,937)



Bamboleo said:
@ Tor

MW: Reflex is also a 2 years old port that managed to get some high numbers with zero advertise after the sequels comes out too.

Of course that there's many factors, but thing is: Wii sells NMH better than HD consoles.

Which wasn't what people wrongly thought on the first week sales.

MW: Reflex was a 2 year old port that didn't do well at all if you compare it to the original, which lends more credance to my argument that the late port is a large mitigating factor in how NMH on HD consoles sold.

Yes I'm sure some people made a conclusion about which console can sell NMH better based on not enough information when the first week sales came in, but you're doing the same thing now.



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noname2200 said:
One data point is too small to draw that conclusion, especially since the data point is Japan (where the game performed so poorly that the sequel is not released there) and where the difference is within the margin of error. Plus, when you add the HD sales together...

When you add the HD sales together you are comparing the sales of 2 platforms against the sales of one platform. That's wrong.

 

Also, the sales data shall get even more obvious next week.

If this game releases in America it will most likely have the same sales pattern we see in Japan but in higher numbers.

 

 



I think you should be more concerned with Europeans buying the sequel in 13 days.
Most likely that won't outsell either of the NMH ports in Japan.



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Bamboleo said:
noname2200 said:
One data point is too small to draw that conclusion, especially since the data point is Japan (where the game performed so poorly that the sequel is not released there) and where the difference is within the margin of error. Plus, when you add the HD sales together...

When you add the HD sales together you are comparing the sales of 2 platforms against the sales of one platform. That's wrong.

 

Also, the sales data shall get even more obvious next week.

If this game releases in America it will most likely have the same sales pattern we see in Japan but in higher numbers.

Perhaps you're correct that two shouldn't be compared to one. However, it is notable that the 360's sales of the game are nearly on par with the original's sales. And while the difference may become more exagerrated with time (unlikely since the Wii's sales were capped by a low shipment), that would make this discussion premature. It's certainly far too early to speak of the Western figures, since all we have right now is speculation. An opponent's statement that "hardcore games sell better on the HD consoles, therefore No More Heroes HD will sell better" is currently as valid a point at this junction.