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Didn't see this posted, Iwata sounds ready for WAR...

 

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article7118570.ece

 

May 7, 2010

Rivals are invading its patch, but Nintendo is ready to go to war

Leo Lewis, Asia Business Correspondent

Nintendo is preparing to unleash the full force of its development and marketing artillery against Apple after profits tumbled at the Japanese giant for the first time in six years.

The reversal of fortunes, though flagged in advance by the company, throws the spotlight on threats to what once seemed a bulletproof business.

Satoru Iwata, the Nintendo president, is understood to have told his senior executives recently to regard the battle with Sony as a victory already won and to treat Apple, and its iPhone and iPad devices, as the “enemy of the future” .

That, say analysts, may be premature. Last Christmas, almost twice as many Wii consoles were sold in the US as the PlayStation3. But games developers increasingly see Sony’s machine as having a large enough base of users to justify not making titles for the Nintendo machine.

Sony and Microsoft are also making their own forays into family-oriented gaming and the iPhone has emerged as a formidable competitor for Nintendo in the handheld gaming arena once dominated by the DS console.

Sources close to the Kyoto-based company describe a mood of concern as the hardware and software divisions race to restore the capacity to “surprise” — a traditional feature of Nintendo games that Mr Iwata holds dear.

The company’s recent strategy has centred on creating devices aimed not just at children and dedicated — generally male — gamers, but at the whole family. Two years ago, the company claimed to have permanently altered the demographics of video games by raising the average age and the gender mix of gamers. Unfortunately, the very people it claimed to have converted — high-school girls and men aged between 30 and 40 — reported that they would rather have an iPhone than a DS in their pockets or handbags.

Although the company ended the 2009 financial year squarely in the black, analysts described Nintendo’s profit slide as a “triple punch”.

Despite selling over 10 million copies of the latest Mario title for the Wii console, the pipeline of new games has stopped delivering the sort of blockbusters that drove console sales to record levels in the first two years after its launch. Nintendo has also suffered from the financial crisis. Households around the world spent most of last year in full belt-tightening mode, and remain cautious about buying games with a relatively short playing-life.

But the most striking decline was in sales of the consoles. Although both the Wii and DS have outsold their Sony and Microsoft counterparts, the lower technology of the Nintendo machines is starting to show. With far less processing power than either the PlayStation3 or Xbox 360, the Wii is suffering. Its sales were 21 per cent down in the year to March 31. Net profits at Nintendo, meanwhile, fell to Y228.64 billion (£1.6 billion) from Y279.09 billion

 

 



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"Is understood to have told" = rumor.

Anyway... profits may have decreased because R&D of the 3DS. Those things should cost a lot of money



Also they surely preparing a lot of money for marketing.



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"That, say analysts, may be premature. Last Christmas, almost twice as many Wii consoles were sold in the US as the PlayStation3. But games developers increasingly see Sony’s machine as having a large enough base of users to justify not making titles for the Nintendo machine."

This paragraph made perhaps the least amount of sense to me. Which is why I'm going to highlight it: So basically a console that has more than double the installed base of the other, sells more than double the software of the other is somehow not justified to have resources allocated exclusively towards it. But the console who sells the least and has the smallest installed base is?

A lot of this 'article' seems to just be a bunch of bologna.



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

Seeing non-dedicated journalism talking about the dynamics of the video game market is always kind of weird.

"People would rather have an iPhone in their pockets than a DS!"

Well DUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH



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http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=108676&page=1&str=1679685242#

I just put it in the Nintendo forum and left out most of the bologna.



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famousringo said:
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=108676&page=1&str=1679685242#

I just put it in the Nintendo forum and left out most of the bologna.



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

Of course people would rather a phone than a video game system with them at all times. That's kinda a given.



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I think this is the most telling part:

"But the most striking decline was in sales of the consoles. Although both the Wii and DS have outsold their Sony and Microsoft counterparts, the lower technology of the Nintendo machines is starting to show. With far less processing power than either the PlayStation3 or Xbox 360, the Wii is suffering. Its sales were 21 per cent down in the year to March 31"

So Wii and DS sales are slowing because of their "lower technology"? They've had lower technology ever since they launched! Why is it apparently only now that it's making a difference?



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griffinA said:
I think this is the most telling part:

"But the most striking decline was in sales of the consoles. Although both the Wii and DS have outsold their Sony and Microsoft counterparts, the lower technology of the Nintendo machines is starting to show. With far less processing power than either the PlayStation3 or Xbox 360, the Wii is suffering. Its sales were 21 per cent down in the year to March 31"

So Wii and DS sales are slowing because of their "lower technology"? They've had lower technology ever since they launched! Why is it apparently only now that it's making a difference?

I think it's more a reference to a wall that is being hit with the current technology. Most of the advancement with newer Wii games can not be seen, but played (through innovation in gameplay, etc.)



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