Slimebeast said:
yanamaster said:
And your whole post is supposed be about what? Because it doesn't make any sense to just say that it's the fault of Greece, you didn't reinvent the wheel claiming this and notice that that i not once claimed that Greece is not at fault, i simply am showing that there's always the other side to the deals and that other side is Goldman sachs which has been playing with currencies in europe like crazy over the past decade.
Poland over the last year had and incredible swing in the strength of the Polish zloty going from a 1:2 ration per US dollar to even a 1:4 ratio. Over a single year where our economy is the steadiest and well paced in the region. And you know what? it turns out that Goldman Sachs was playing with our currency, betting that it will strengthen and then weaken. So first they buy out our currency in massive quantities and then just as so sell them.
Normally i wouldn't have a problem but these companies are not operating on a small scale but on macro scales. Because of their "games" the export sector is in shambles not to mention that potential investors are afraid to come in saying that Poland is not steady enough, but just how is a country like Poland supposed to fend of a company like Goldman Sachs?
And where the hell did that third paragraph of yours come from? Who said that it's normal? Where? You really went way to far with presumptions on this one my friend. The fact of the matter is that a country by itself does not have the ability to move such large amounts of money without being noticed ( we're talking about 15 b euro here). Goldman Sachs decided to offer their services and the greek gave in to stupidity, that i completely agree on. All i'm saying is look at Goldman Sachs as huge contributor to the current situation.
Could have Greece done something before it got out of control? Sure. Did they expect a crisis to hit them and hit them so hard......hah. They gambled. And they decided to do it at the worst time possible.
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I don't know, maybe we're from different planets. Different countries at least lol.
The Swedish economy is actually smaller than Polands. But Goldman Sachs can't do shit to us. And taking a suspicous deal from them to hide the state of your rotten economy would just be something beyond the wildest dreams for any Swedish politician. It just can't happen. And if it did we certainly wouldn't blame any international bankers. It would be the biggest political scandal in Swedish history without any comparison.
I am almost thinking that it's no wonder that our economy is so stable when we have such different mentality compared to people so close as the other side of the Baltic sea.
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You actually answered something in that post, your economy is too small to interest GS but the Polish and Greek aren't, with Greece especially since they began the whole thing coming up to the olympics that they were organizing at the time, a lot of money to be made.
And i have thought about the differences between southern europe and the scandinavian countries. I honestly have no idea how the systems that i see in Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland(although it theoretically doesn't belong to the group) function as they do without a hitch. I personally would love Poland to be like them but i just don't see it happening with the mentality that permutes here.
And i'm not saying that the bankers are responsible, i'm saying they're co-responsible :P
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