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SaviorX on 05 May 2010

No game has ever killed the title it was sent out to surpass.



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wholikeswood on 05 May 2010
CGI-Quality said:
wholikeswood said:
CGI-Quality said:
Xxain said:
CGI-Quality said:
Xxain said:
CGI-Quality said:
Xxain said:
CGI-Quality said:
EA, EA, EA........just when I thought you had improved....



On a serious note, very unprofessional of him to want to "craft" a Halo-killer, even mentioning it. Oh well, I'm sure his game will be quite a looker, but it will hardly put any dent in Halo's success.

??? why is it unprofessional to want to craft a _____ killer? for a man that talks about love in competition its kinda ironic to see you say that.

If you "kill' off the competiton, there's nothing to compete with. How do you not see the irony in that? O.o

in a technical sense they dont really mean kill ( or at least they shouldnt) the phrase at its purest means to rob them of there domination of said genre. Its sign of respect and acknowledgement

I disagree with his wording. To want to be stiff competition is welcome. To claim you're "crafting" an "X" Killer is far more bold.

Also: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=2014574&page=2&postnum=1

I'm pretty consistent on my views.


btw what does link suppose to mean? I not doubting you at all.

You questioned my consistency. My thoughts haven't changed on the matter. As others have said in here, wanting an "____Killer" is not only wishful thinking, but unecessary.

That's all I'm saying.

Oh boy, where to start.

Firstly, your criticism of his "unprofessional" announcement that EA are crafting a Halo-killer is misunderstanding what this really is - it's PR... it's meant to sound challenging in order to generate buzz for a title and subsequently push sales. There's nothing malicious or unprofessional about it at all; if anything, it's actually a compliment to Bungie since it's a tacit acknowledgement of how good their FPS franchise is.

Secondly, no one said anything about "killing off" the competition, i.e. to categorically put an end to a rival franchise. The term "X-killer" merely refers to dethroning the current top dog. I suspect that, when you realised your first post in this thread was, as Xxain observed, ironic/inconsistent in light of your usual pro-competition attitude, you tried to re-define EA's statement as though it were in fact some piece of zealous aggression rather than the natural developer-vs-developer rivalry that it really is.

Lastly, your suggestion that "X-killers" are unnecessary and that the most a developer should aspire to be is "stiff competition" is absolutely risible. If no one were trying to advance genres and surpass each other's efforts then the videogame industry would never evolve and new benchmarks would never be set.

I'm sure you'll stick to your guns and continue to spin EA's statement as them being "out-of-order meany-meanies", but we both know it's just healthy competition and ambition broadcasted for a bit of publicity and hype, so save it.

Our debate has already been resolved (via PM), so I'm not going over it again. I know you have a knack for attacking me when I defend Microsoft or Nintendo but let this one die. You also don't always have to be so condescending and/or snobby when debating/posting.

And btw, I hope you plan to attack everyone else in this thread who's comments virtually mirror mine. Something tells me my hope will probably be crushed though

Fortunately, no one else came in with an agenda to defend the Halo franchise from an insult that never existed in the first place, so I don't need to "attack" anybody else. You were certainly the only one to try to paint EA's words as out-of-line instead of recognising it for the PR that it is, so your suggestion that there were plenty of other posters in this thread with comments "virtually mirroring" yours is hilarious.



De85 on 05 May 2010
SmoothCriminal said:
CGI-Quality said:
Wagram said:
Halos story is pretty generic though. I will say that, but I really liked Halo 3! :D

and I give credit to Halo 1 for being the bomb for its time. But it was too short with a crap story.

...Halo 2 I will say is a generic piece of CRAP!

I liked Halo Wars, and I still need to play ODST. Hopefully it is as good as Halo 3.

I don't get that either though. What makes the story generic?

That's a question of curiosity too, not an attack or flame.

Halo was a HUGE ripoff of Ender's Game (the best book ever written IMO).

 

That doesn't really make it generic, but it does make it a copycat.

Say what?? 

Let's see, child prodigy is recruited at a very young age to command a fleet of spaceships = lone soldier crashes on mysterious space station capable of destroying all sentient life in the galaxy...

I'm sorry, but that seems like a bit of a stretch to me.



ssj12 on 05 May 2010
themanwithnoname said:
ssj12 said:
themanwithnoname said:
ssj12 said:
Mendicate Bias said:
Has any game that has ever claimed to be a (insert game) killer ever even come close to meeting that statement?

Just stating that your making a game killer is extremely un-classy. No good developer ever says their making a whatever killer, they can always stand behind their game without having to compare it to others.

@SSj12

lol crysis better than Halo, ok buddy.

Also for being the most hyped PC exclusive game in years Crysis didn't really sell that well. Halo PC released 3 years after the xbox version and it still sold pretty well.

most hyped in years?

*looks at Orange Box*

*looks at Battlefield: Bad Company 2*

*Looks at StarCraft 2*

*looks at Diable 3*

*Looks at WoW:WotLK*

I laugh at your statement now. hahaha haha he he hahaha hehe hahaha.

 

And since when did sales mean better? Halo is generic garbage. If you ever noticed the best games are normally niche titles.


How have you been here long enough to make 12,000 posts, but fail to realize labelling something as "generic garbage" is 100% pure trolling? Of course, it could be that you don't care.

how is it trolling? I've owned the games. Played all three main series games for at least 50 hours a piece not including single player. I've stated plenty of times that many games have come before and after it that has done everything it offers better. Tribes, Wolfenstein, Doom, Quake, GoldenEye 007, Unreal, Battlefield, COD, Half-Life, Counter Strike, Shattered Horizen, Resistance, Killzone, etc all have done everything Halo has done in one sense or another way better. No matter if its Teamplay, balancing, weapons selection, control, size and scale, story etc they have done it better.

 

I'm also stating an opinion. Don't like it? I really don't care. You can't and wont change my opinion as I wont change yours. Many people agree with my view as others agree with yours. Whining about possible trolling when there is none to be had makes you the true troll here.


Go take a look at what people get banned for when the reason is trolling and your's falls right in line (vlad posted similar about Halo and he's been banned for the last month). You can hide behind calling me a troll all day, but the truth is that as someone who apparently was a former moderator on this site, you should know better that you can't get away with calling something generic garbage (which I think you do), even if I'm the only one here who has the balls to call you on it.

have you thought of the fact he might have been banned for calling X game generic trash in the games natural forum? I'd expect to be warned or banned for calling a microsoft game that in the microsoft forums, but since this is the general gaming forums there is a touch more room for opinion.



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ssj12 on 05 May 2010
Carl2291 said:
Anyone want a bet?

Halo: Reach will sell more in its first month, than Crysis 2 in it's lifetime.

sales vs quality doesnt really work in this situation. One could say Halo ODST sold more in a lifetime then most FPSs on the market. Does that mean ODST is actually a quality product? no really.



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Lastgengamer on 05 May 2010
ssj12 said:
themanwithnoname said:
ssj12 said:
themanwithnoname said:
ssj12 said:
Mendicate Bias said:
Has any game that has ever claimed to be a (insert game) killer ever even come close to meeting that statement?

Just stating that your making a game killer is extremely un-classy. No good developer ever says their making a whatever killer, they can always stand behind their game without having to compare it to others.

@SSj12

lol crysis better than Halo, ok buddy.

Also for being the most hyped PC exclusive game in years Crysis didn't really sell that well. Halo PC released 3 years after the xbox version and it still sold pretty well.

most hyped in years?

*looks at Orange Box*

*looks at Battlefield: Bad Company 2*

*Looks at StarCraft 2*

*looks at Diable 3*

*Looks at WoW:WotLK*

I laugh at your statement now. hahaha haha he he hahaha hehe hahaha.

 

And since when did sales mean better? Halo is generic garbage. If you ever noticed the best games are normally niche titles.


How have you been here long enough to make 12,000 posts, but fail to realize labelling something as "generic garbage" is 100% pure trolling? Of course, it could be that you don't care.

how is it trolling? I've owned the games. Played all three main series games for at least 50 hours a piece not including single player. I've stated plenty of times that many games have come before and after it that has done everything it offers better. Tribes, Wolfenstein, Doom, Quake, GoldenEye 007, Unreal, Battlefield, COD, Half-Life, Counter Strike, Shattered Horizen, Resistance, Killzone, etc all have done everything Halo has done in one sense or another way better. No matter if its Teamplay, balancing, weapons selection, control, size and scale, story etc they have done it better.

 

I'm also stating an opinion. Don't like it? I really don't care. You can't and wont change my opinion as I wont change yours. Many people agree with my view as others agree with yours. Whining about possible trolling when there is none to be had makes you the true troll here.


Go take a look at what people get banned for when the reason is trolling and your's falls right in line (vlad posted similar about Halo and he's been banned for the last month). You can hide behind calling me a troll all day, but the truth is that as someone who apparently was a former moderator on this site, you should know better that you can't get away with calling something generic garbage (which I think you do), even if I'm the only one here who has the balls to call you on it.

have you thought of the fact he might have been banned for calling X game generic trash in the games natural forum? I'd expect to be warned or banned for calling a microsoft game that in the microsoft forums, but since this is the general gaming forums there is a touch more room for opinion.

Correct this is the general gaming forum. We should be able to give our opinions on all games that are related to OP and on topic whether it's negative within reason of course which yours was or be it positive. Just like I did but I suppose I wasn't called out for it because it's a the more popular viewpoint.      



Ssenkahdavic on 05 May 2010

The only true Halo killer would be MS deciding to never use the IP again.

Tho I bet Crysis will look better.  Crysis is an OK game that looks amazing.  Thats about it.



 

  

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Cross-X on 05 May 2010

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

Halo Killer my arse!!! If Crysis 2 has split screen then I'll consider. Until then. Talk whatever you want EA.



Mummelmann on 05 May 2010

Halo killer? In quality and fun? No. In sales? No, not even close. I mean, I'm not a huge Halo fan (I loved the second one though) but Crysis (and Warhead, which I know wasn't crytek) were utter shit imo so Crysis 2 will only kill its dignity following in the wake of this bold announcement.



scat398 on 05 May 2010

Halo reach so far is shaping up to be a cut above the rest in the MP department. Will have to wait and see what crysis and blackops have to offer, but it's not looking good for the competition.