what will Help the 360 more? | |||
| Reach, 'nuff said | 21 | 13.82% | |
| Natal (Wii is going down!) | 41 | 26.97% | |
| Price cut. | 35 | 23.03% | |
| Slim model | 44 | 28.95% | |
| other please specify. | 11 | 7.24% | |
| Total: | 152 | ||
Lord Flashheart said:
Nope. 1billion compared to all the profits of the PS1 and 2 |
Where did you pull that number out of?source?
Google is your friend
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/30/ps3-has-lost-sony-4-7-billion-may-be-profitable-next-year/
http://www.vg247.com/2009/10/30/sony-ps-division-has-lost-4-7-billion-since-launching-ps3/
Source is sony itself
I swear someone said they lost the profits gained from the PS1 but can't find it.
| Slimebeast said: Slim X360 Natal with 250GB HDD for $299 = world domination. |
I'm not sure they want to throw Natal, a bigger harddrive, and a couple of their best games into the box to boot badly enough to take the $200.00 loss to beat back the PS3.
AaronSOLDIER said:
But what about that chart thing were Sony are still 1.5 bil up yet MS are like 7 bil under? Wish I could find it |
That was the original Xbox, not the 360.
* 2006 Y/E starts July 1st 2005, 5 months before 360's release.
** 2007 Y/E starts April 1st 2006, 8 months before PS3's release.
*** 2010 Y/D consists of 3 Q's of each company, (PS3's Q4 fiscal results due very soon, 360's Q4 due July)
**** Total for PS3 includes profit/loss from PS2/PSP SW/HW
***** Total for 360 includes profit/loss from Zune & other entertainment devices.
(6) - includes the one time $1 billion loss for RROD.
Source - http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=19625436&postcount=90
| Year/Console | PS3 | 360 | ||
| Y/E 2006* | -$1,339,000,000 | |||
| Y/E 2007** | -$1,970,923,859 | -$1,969,000,000 (6) |
||
| Y/E 2008 | -$1,079,994,103 | +$426,000,000 | ||
| Y/E 2009 | -$664,313,787 | +$169,000,000 | ||
| Y/D 2010*** | -$856,245,250 | +$852,000,000 | ||
| Total | -$4,571,576,999**** | -$1,861,000,000***** |
johnappseed84 said:
I still don't think that will be enough to get their momentum back. They will have still have to throw in a couple of their highly regarded games, like they have bundled with the Elite now, into that $299 package as well if they really want to turn the tide. I'm not sure they want to throw Natal, a bigger harddrive, and a couple of their best games into the box to boot badly enough to take the $200.00 loss to beat back the PS3. |
So basically you mean the X360 is doomed lol?
Cos I can't see them selling all that for less than $299. I do think they can afford to throw in ODST and Forza 3 in that package though cos that wouldn't cost much, it's only a few Dollars per DVD. The question is if those bundled games would make much difference in sales. I don't think so.
johnappseed84 said:
I still don't think that will be enough to get their momentum back. They will have still have to throw in a couple of their highly regarded games, like they have bundled with the Elite now, into that $299 package as well if they really want to turn the tide. I'm not sure they want to throw Natal, a bigger harddrive, and a couple of their best games into the box to boot badly enough to take the $200.00 loss to beat back the PS3. |
Ok, firstly, a slim model would reduce costs of the console, just like it has the PS3. Not to mention the Elite is making money anyway. Secondly a 250GB HDD won't cost much more than a 120GB HDD, despite the hike in price compared in models. Thirdly, they're already bundling ODST and Forza, 3 two very good games to bundle. Lastly, we don't know how much Natal is going to cost, and if they will make a profit/loss from it. For all we know it could $50, with them making a profit, or $100, with them making a loss.
Best case scenario, Natal actually costs them $50 to produce and they bundle it free with a $299 elite. With the elite already making money, and the slim further cutting costs. It seems to me they'll break even, where on earth you got $200 loss from I don't know, even if Natal costs $100.
| Lord Flashheart said: Google is your friend http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/30/ps3-has-lost-sony-4-7-billion-may-be-profitable-next-year/ http://www.vg247.com/2009/10/30/sony-ps-division-has-lost-4-7-billion-since-launching-ps3/ Source is sony itself I swear someone said they lost the profits gained from the PS1 but can't find it. |
i think they lost the profits gained from the ps1 and the ps2!
Slimebeast said:
So basically you mean the X360 is doomed lol? Cos I can't see them selling all that for less than $299. I do think they can afford to throw in ODST and Forza 3 in that package though cos that wouldn't cost much, it's only a few Dollars per DVD. The question is if those bundled games would make much difference in sales. I don't think so. |
johnappseed84 said:
Well since it's coming out in the Fall, the bundled games would probably have to be newer than ODST and Forza III. Probably Alan Wake and another big one. |
No they don't have to bundle such new games. Cos I never see PS3 being bundled with Sony's big games for $299 even though they have plenty to choose from (Uncharted 2, Lil Big Planet, Ratcher, Killzone2, Infamous etc). Not even one game is bundled with the $299 Slim!
its all about the games ,PS3 has upped thier game with some great exc, Microsoft needs to up thiers
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